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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
Suggestion: New release type "C64 Import"
Rough started a discussion a couple of years ago (see Adding the cracker group to import/trainer version), pin pointing a problem where a crack may be credited repeatedly for a group - due to the many imports that may exist.
Some attempts have been made to differentiate cracks from import by suffixing the entry with "[import]" - an approach that might not be appealing to all.
Discussions suggest that original crack group (pun intended) be credited only on *their* release, while imports only be credited to importing group, leaving a link to the original release.
My biggest concern is to be able to (quickly) identify and differentiate cracks from import, when checking for existence of a certain release for example. Although this can be partly solved by suffixing the name, I'm not sure it's the right approach. Cleaning up the credits list would partly solve the problem, but I still wouldn't be able to clearly see a difference between crack and import.
So I'm suggesting that we add a new release type. Let's call it "C64 Crack Import" or just "C64 Import" for short. It would be a fairly easy task to just "re-categorize" any imports stumbled upon, and to some extent it could probably be batch-made with an SQL query (Perff?).
It is often talked about that the DB is not designed to handle certain new features (tags for instance), while adding a new release type would make no harm to performance. Also, from a DB design perspective, it would make more sense since you can then do filtered searches where imports and cracks are differentiated. Also in release lists, it would be possible to see the difference.
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Having import as a release type, it would furthermore be possible to have an option in listings to "Hide imports"... the result of which of course would depend on the quality of the entries, but it *would* be possible. Think future. =) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11390 |
we have worked out something that will (also) cover this - its all a matter of perff actually finding some time to implement it - see here |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
While all that looks wonderful, I can appreciate the effort required to implement it. Introducing a new release type is done very quickly and it would be a good complement to the other suggestions. It would allow us to start using it right away, while Perff gets to work on the more thorough solution. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11390 |
and it piles more stuff on top that needs to be removed again and then somehow migrated to the new scheme - i'd rather see this done properly right away. |
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
I suggest adding one distinction to this release type: Imported Crack
This makes it apparent that the release type started out as a crack and was imported. |
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Mason
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 462 |
Also it would be nice if the imports was splitted in legal imports and not |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
@The Shadow: Yes, Imported Crack would prolly be a better name.
@Groepaz: I've reviewed your suggestion again and if I understand it correctly, it would still have the release type of crack, with a "flag" property saying whether it is an import etc.
I'm a bit curious to know how this is intended to be presented in search results and release lists? At the end of the day I want to be able to distinguish cracks from imports in an easy way. It's all fine with this new meta data when looking at a specific entry, but when you have a list of entries, how would you present it (to be able to distinguish it)? |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2594 |
I would prefer only "import", which would also cover the (few) imported/fixed demos. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11390 |
bepp: how it is presented is secondary for the time being - and i am sure perff can easily add whatever filtering is required once its implemented. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2929 |
Quoting bugjamI would prefer only "import", which would also cover the (few) imported/fixed demos.
Yeah and the imported tools |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11390 |
thats exactly why we want to make it a general flag and not add a releasetype for it :) |
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