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2018-06-26 18:03
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
Trolley Follies

"The entry was deleted by a moderator on 2018-06-20 12:13:48+00 for reason: basic, not worthy"

until now, i always thought we are acting by the rule of "we dont judge quality" here. apparently that has changed now? please point me to the new rules that now define what is worthy and what is not. (and why this: http://www.blackcastlesoftware.com/games/trolleyFollies/ is not) thanks.
2018-06-26 18:10
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
Teh fuck?!
2018-06-26 20:48
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186
Simple, 3 mods refused multiple times to accept the author of the game as CSDb user because, yes, just a basic game. Fuck it, really.
The basic game got uploaded by someone else, and the author entry got created. This creates a circular consequence that the author NOW should be eligible of a CSDb access, just because it has an entry here.
It's head or tails, accept him and his basic stuff, whatever it is, or don't accept both him and his stuff.
Same goes for others not making anything else other than basic programs.
It's about drawing a line. 3 mods, me included, were agreeing about removing basic games and authors of such games if there is nothing else that can justify them as scene entries in here.
It's ok to start from somewhere, but do we really want to transform CSDb into a wannabe basic programmers database? Just dump in CSDb whatever you want like 10PRINT"HELLO":GOTO10 and be okay with it?
2018-06-26 21:04
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
i have heard this before, but it doesnt answer anything.

so when i see a basic game uploaded, how exactly do i decide now if it belongs here or not?

and if i browse the db and stumble about a basic game, how exactly do i decide if it should get removed or not?

i really find this a bit worrying, stuff getting deleted not because of site rules (which some genious decided to remove) - but because of personal pet theories of 3 grumpy mods.

but yeah, i can see how this is easier than having to match your own releases against those nasty rules that once existed =P
2018-06-26 21:47
Mr.Ammo
Account closed

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228
Quoting iAN CooG
The basic game got uploaded by someone else, and the author entry got created. This creates a circular consequence that the author NOW should be eligible of a CSDb access, just because it has an entry here.


Why not re-evaluate this rule instead of deleting releases for the sake of preventing people from gaining access to CSDb.
2018-06-26 22:10
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
btw to make this clear: i am not opposed to removing this per se - however there should be clearly defined as to why it happens, and the same rule will then be applied to every other release.
2018-06-26 23:55
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
So you want to remove all stuff by Cout for example and give guy a heart attack? Not nice. There should be general poll for users about BASIC stuff if you consider it a problem.
2018-06-27 00:05
alterus

Registered: Feb 2016
Posts: 10
So if there is a BASIC compo and people upload their entries, then its OK, even if they suck? But if its a game someone put lots of time into, its not worthy because its BASIC? How does that make sense?
2018-06-27 01:11
alterus

Registered: Feb 2016
Posts: 10
Oh, so now I see the mods have removed all the BASIC compo stuff, well at least the BASIC 10 liners compos. You deleted one of my entries... How nice.... Fucking lame guys.
2018-06-27 18:18
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
i'd still be interested in how its decided what gets deleted and what not, since "me and 3 other mods thought its shit" cant be it. since there are apparently now more cases, there must be a common way to determine what is worthy and what isnt. also "compo stuff isnt worthy" is quite a change from the common practise. pretty lame indeed.
2018-06-27 21:21
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186
If I have to ask you permission or open a poll to hear what users think what's best to do my job in here, I'd rather quit. I don't have to justify myself, it's already democratic enough: 3 mods agreed, the decision was made. If noone agreed, all would be the same as before.
End of the story.
 
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