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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146 |
Message for 4agentE
Thanks a lot for derailing the thread. I was just writing you a message that you should start behaving. You can be as autistic you want (your own words) but please stop acting like this is a matter of life and death.
I would have been happy to continue the discussion about the actual real timelines of things instead of that bullshit.
Also CountZero, how about a warning first? |
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deetsay
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 43 |
Quoting KrillThe vast majority of early demos undeniably shares a lot of style with crack intros, but that wouldn't contradict either interpretation, imho, of the demo scene springing from cracking scene
It was a "demo" by Spreadpoint. It's literally perfectly showing the demo scene springing from the cracking scene.
Quoting Krillvs both of them emerging at the same time, with a common proto-scene ancestor.
Let's agree on this, that there was a "proto-scene" from which the demo scene and cracking scene both split out. Consider all the culture, stylistic and technical evolution until that point shared. Doesn't really matter if it happened in 1985 or later. Now in the "proto-scene" before the emergence, how significant, numerous, all-encompassing and impressive were crack intros? And how significant was "Piccolo Mouso" in comparison? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Crack intros were irrelevant on c-net, it was all about pictures, music, and sometimes scrollers. |
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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146 |
Was CompuNet popular outside of the UK? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
How does that matter?
It was popular enough for me to get c-net stuff on tapes in germany, 85ish. with zero contact to "swappers" or "scene". |
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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146 |
I think it matters! :D The world was a lot slowly connected back then. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Regarding demoscene, it certainly had a much bigger impact than any other early network :) |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
Look Mankeli, I’m sure you can read (although one would be pardoned to wonder judging by you misspelling my handle) as can everybody else around here. If you re-read your thread in chronological order, it’s dead obvious that the one who derailed your subject was Krill. He turned your subject into his crusade against the premise that demoscene emanated from crackerscene. Which was NOT your subject as I recall. He turned your thread into continuation of his personal crusade he leads in other places. I was responding to him. Yet, you’re for some bizarre reason calling me out. Go over it all again if you have trouble remembering, see where it got sidetracked. Apology is welcome. |
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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146 |
Maybe we can discuss about thread post timelines on another thread? Let's not here. I thought the crackerscene / demoscene origin discussion was topical atleast, atleast until it was just arguing. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Quote:his personal crusade he leads in other places
please elaborate |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
I was totally oblivious of CompuNet at the time. That’s the reason swapping was my only source of demos along with the cracks. When I heard about CompuNet later it seemed like science fiction to me. At the time I thought the only use for modems was to dial US warez BBSs using stolen calling card numbers. So if indeed there was a whole demoscene outside mailswapping scene active on CompuNet, I never knew.
P.S. Mankeli, I wish you named this thread differently. |
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