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2002-09-13 07:33
Dosoo
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gentlemen prefer zips

I'm just thinking that why so much of todays 64 software is in zipped form. As we all know, the size of an unzipped d64 file is 170 kb. Whats the purpose of zipping that? And of course the actual program file on the disk image is crunched.

Ten years ago all this made sense. Now we're living internet time and the byte transfer speed is much faster than ancient times.

I don't like unzipping
2002-09-13 08:26
Pixman
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Well, do you prefer downloading four disk sides or one zip file...?

I prefer the zip file.

And btw, C64 users are still like in the 80s, you know ;-)
Greets,
Pixman
2002-09-13 09:21
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
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Well, for me it's mostly about saving webspace. You can imagine that 31 MB of zipped d64s take up well over 60 MB uncompressed.
Considered that I only have 75 MB I would have nearly no space left for all those neat screenshots. ;-)
And have you ever thought about the fact that the majority of people is still surfing with ISDN or 56k modem, some even use their C64 with a 14.4k modem?
I could deliver much more arguments in favour of zips, but I better stop here.

2002-09-13 10:42
Warbaby
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I can't even remember the days I didn't use ZIP. I love it.
2002-09-13 18:59
Rough
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Quote: Well, do you prefer downloading four disk sides or one zip file...?

I prefer the zip file.

And btw, C64 users are still like in the 80s, you know ;-)
Greets,
Pixman


"C64 users are still like in the 80s"

Haha, that's the best sentence I have heard for while on a C64 forum. Really.
2002-09-15 04:07
White Flame

Registered: Sep 2002
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There's also the benefit of including readme files for extra info, or source code, etc.
2002-09-17 15:08
Cupid

Registered: Jan 2002
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And only FULL d64s are 170kb, most of the time a zip is a lot smaller. And there is also the bit about linking to it on a website. Linking to a d64 directly causes trouble on normal PCs, as the machine does not know what to do with the file (no mime type, no program connection). Zip is the standard for downloadables on the web. Use a nice file commander and you can use them like folders (wincommander) or use unzip even in dos mode. I _hate_ people putting d64s on the web, they did not really grasp the idea of web publishing. It's as evil as linking to ppt,bmp,xls, or any other document that requires a special tool to be opened.
2002-09-17 16:58
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
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I hate those !1,!2,!3,!4 files (ZipCode), I have to use the Zip-Collection V2 to unzip all those zip-coded files on to a destination disk. ...and the worse thing? Well, it takes a lot longer to unzip a zip code packed file, rather than use .D64.
2002-09-17 17:28
Cupid

Registered: Jan 2002
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You use starzip for unpacking that, shipped with Starcommander :-)

This is actually the old practice that you HAD to use on BBS, more or less tradition now.

Agreed, this is rather annoying than making sense these days.
2002-09-17 22:41
Rough
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1! mainly comes up with old files (nineties), e.g. many on Digital Dungeon
2002-11-03 22:10
S¥T
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i agree with Pixman! don't forget the people still use their 64 and I also prefer zip or other packed stuff coz I often experience some files are broken when they where not zipped and when mostly everything is alright! so why not unzipping??? gimme a reason why thing should not be zipped! smaller file sizes means more disk space on the severs!!! that's cool no?
 
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