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2005-12-30 06:13
Wanderer
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How do you judge 2006 releases

Here's something I've been pondering.

When the clock strikes midnight, how will the first releases of 2006 be calculated? For example Australia releases uploaded at 00:01 on January 1, 2006 would be our Saturday, December 31, 2005

Should this go by the CSDB time zone as per entry creation time/date or per the time zone of the creator's country?

It's not a big deal I know, but I understand there is a bit of a race for the first demos of the year. How should they be calculated? Even NTSC demos come from different time zones.

My opinion is it should go by the time zone of the demo creator. Thoughts?
2005-12-30 06:28
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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First release cracks will be going by the time of the countries where the FTP sites reside. The Digital Dungeon (ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64) and Gangsta's Paradise (ftp://c64.rulez.org/pub/c64).

So basically Euro time is respected here.

In the past it was American time, as the USA boards were the medium used.

2005-12-30 06:40
Wanderer
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So if I had a crack to upload I could do so tomorrow (Friday, American time) on an FTP site in Europe and it would be considered a 2006 crack??

That seems kind of like cheating if you're from the USA. :)

I guess I was asking more less for CSDB because FTP sites don't show the uploader and the time/date stamp isn't shown unless you search the properties.

What would you say if a North American uploaded it on a Friday to your site on a Saturday? Is that valid?

(No I don't have a crack, but I am curious how people will work this out)
2005-12-30 07:06
Oswald

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Wanderer, if I were you I would sink in shame, instead of posting like nothing have happened. You're not welcome here.
2005-12-30 07:10
Wanderer
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Quote: Wanderer, if I were you I would sink in shame, instead of posting like nothing have happened. You're not welcome here.

LDA IGNORELIST
CLC
ADC #$01
STA IGNORELIST

Thank you Jazzcat. If anyone else has any ON TOPIC responses, please leave them :)
2005-12-30 07:24
Style

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Posts: 498
Quote: LDA IGNORELIST
CLC
ADC #$01
STA IGNORELIST

Thank you Jazzcat. If anyone else has any ON TOPIC responses, please leave them :)


INC IGNORELIST

dickhead.... now I see why your demos are crap.

2005-12-30 07:47
Wanderer
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There are already a handful of anti-Wanderer threads to pursue. I'm trying to have a serious discussion here and I will continue to post threads that contribute.

So to those who don't care for me, please decide here and now:
a) to join in, on topic
b) to ignore it entirely (it's soooo easy)
c) turn it into another 200 reply heated argument that will end when people finally demand everybody involved stops.

I'm not going anywhere... so choose wisely because I think everybody is tired of the flaming.

Thanks
2005-12-30 08:20
CyberBrain
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I would say that in CSDb it's the time of the country where it's released that counts. If i add an old release i've found somewhere, i enter the date that the demo states as the release-date, i don't convert it to central european time first, and then enter that date.
2005-12-30 09:12
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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Also something to keep in mind is that VANDALISM NEWS and the chart "The List" (since 1991) doesn't include CSDB as the main reference medium for first releases.

The problem of time-delays between countries is usually not that big, as these days most of the first releases come from Europe as opposed to say the USA and Australia.

2005-12-30 10:44
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
Haha! I never thought about this... I made a "First in 89" demo 16 years ago. Maybe I wasn't first after all... I didn't think about timezones. And what does count? I counted when it was saved on my disk, and not the day my snail-mail contacts got the demo.
2005-12-30 11:15
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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"World First" is normally the terminology used for demos and "first releases" is used in the cracking scene.

Teehee ;)
 
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