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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Wiring?
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, the english I read here is a bit messy for me to understand. Do I smell someone accusing me that I wire, or the opposite?
Quote from the latest Beergarden.
"Personally I'm a beleiver that 'REAL C64' gfx artist should pixel out the whole picture that they draw. Not wire it from Amiga or PC onto C64 then touch it up in an art package and then lay claim to fame on it.To me this is MIGHTY LAME and for these of you reading who don't know what I'm getting at, then just search your spreads for some recent gfx by JAILBIRD. Study his gfx carefully, they look good don't they..? So they should as wiring doesn't require anyway near the work or effort as does pixelling every dot on the C64."
Hope I just missunderstood these lines, but anyhow, proofs about my cheating would be higly appreciated, all the more as I always (unlike other "artists") prove my C64 handpixelling by numerous work stages.
I don't get why was I picked out nevertheless, wether if the author of the article thinks I cheat or not.
Then, you spend countless hours on minor innovations in c64 pixelling, you dedicate original graphics to the audience, whilst NOt COPYing other graphics artists, you fight on every kind of forums for high class fair-play on pixelling-competitions, or for the workstage-rules, and then you get a nice slap on your face. Well thank you.
My motivation is on the floor and my sadness is really deep. :((( |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
Hi Arnold,
I just think you got the guy wrong as he took you as an example that graphics that are pixelled on a c64 can look excellent.
lol at least that's what I read between the lines as the style was hard to follow :D
regards |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Really easy to missunderstand. I still feel a bit crushed down.
Thanx Slator, and if a Beergarden staff member will strenghten your opinion, I'll go back to normal :).
By the way, warm up your VIC engines, results from "C64.SK's Pixelcompo" will be announced tomorrow at 10:00AM, and the graphics will be downloadable immediately. |
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T.M.R
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749 |
Well, the English is a little messy, but i'd say it reads something like "have a look at how good Jailbird's pictures are, that's because he put a lot of work in and didn't just wire". |
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Deev
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206 |
when I read through that chapter, I took it to mean yours were an example of quality hand-pixelled gfx, though I can see reading that quote why it could be taken the other way. Maybe more care should be taken by whoever wrote that text (Tomz?) to make himself clear. |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
They are the words of Tomz, I'm sure if you get to the last page you will see his moniker. |
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Oxidy
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Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 80 |
<quote>To me this is MIGHTY LAME and for these of you reading who don't know what I'm getting at, then just search your spreads for some recent gfx by JAILBIRD. Study his gfx carefully, they look good don't they..? So they should as wiring doesn't require anyway near the work or effort as does pixelling every dot on the C64.</quote>
When reading Beergarden yesterday I came to the same conclusion as Jailbird. I was not 100%, but it felt like the writer meant that Jailbird was wiring. Writing in a language you don't control can cause misunderstandings and I think this is yet another case. Nevertheless, the only person who knows for sure what was meant would be Tomz. If he meant that Jailbird was wiring then JB deserves to know why he thinks that. If not, I think it's appropriate with a official clarification in the next issue.
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
How do the average reader (those whose english is not a mother-language) interprets these lines? I think there is only one way:
"Personally I'm a beleiver that 'REAL C64' gfx artist should pixel out the whole picture that they draw. Not wire it from Amiga or PC onto C64 then touch it up in an art package and then lay claim to fame on it."
The author is referring to converting pictures from a mightier platform to C64 and touching it up in a C64 pixel-program... Then, the next sentence is:
"To me this is MIGHTY LAME and for these of you reading who don't know what I'm getting at, then just search your spreads for some recent gfx by JAILBIRD."
My "translation" is: that's lame, and if you wan't to see lame, converted/touched up pictures, check out some graphics by Jailbird.
"Study his gfx carefully, they look good don't they..? So they should as wiring doesn't require anyway near the work or effort as does pixelling every dot on the C64."
Converting doesn't need any effort, thus when you convert and touch-up, it's easy to produce good pictures.
And Tomz concluded this by studying my graphics in a way we're not introduced to.
If the article is after all, positive, why don't he picked someone better than me, f. e. Deekay, Electric or Sander. If his words are negative, a proof that consist just of "studying his graphics carefully" is for me, not enough, nevertheless there are "graphicians" that can be brought up as much finer examples on graphics-converting, f. e. Rayden (or Booze Lee).
The same way Deekay accused Sebaloz (who doesn't wires for sure, that's a bet), Quasar (neither wires, just had a strange tehnique, who after all lost his motivations and as I know, left the scene) and Valsary.
I realy don't have anyhing against Beergarden, it's one of my favourite magazines, but I can't just pass over this kind of writing, wich doesn't differs a lot from "understandable writing" or "investigate journalism" of other magazines that are actually hatred or voted down by Tomz for the same reasons. |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
Jailbird:If you want it to go further and more wide then maybe you could do one? None of us in Tide have much graphics ability and your views on gfx would be taken more seriously. |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
I mean you views would be taken more seriously than ours (in case someone misreads it). |
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T.M.R
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749 |
JB: i can think of a reason why you'd could well be singled out in a positive light; Deekay, Electric and Sander haven't released anything lately... |
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