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2010-04-05 10:44
ElCharro
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Not answering 1570 Floppy Disk Drive

Hello,

I am back since decades on real c64/128 Hardware.
Now I am chekcing out a very clean 128 computer with 1570 drives that do not want even load the "$" directory.
I tried to give the command Initialize typing:

Open 1,8,15,"Initialize" or something like that fully explained in the 1541 Manual bot the Floppy Drives seem to be mooving and flashing lights but at the end of the operation I still cannot load the directory or read files form the disk.

Any Hint?

Thanks a Lot!
2010-04-05 10:49
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1744
Are you sure the disk is actually readable?

You could try to format a new one and load the directory from that.
2010-04-05 13:05
ElCharro
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it seems that the FDD doesn't answer to any command. It only flashes in a different way and I am not able to format.

What should I do?

Thanks
2010-04-05 13:20
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1744
This is contradictory. You said in your first post that the drive is moving and that you get a flashing light at the end.
For an "I0" (initialize command) this is normal if the disk is not formatted.

What happens when you try to format a disk using the "N0" command?
i.e 'OPEN 15,8,15,"N0:DISK,00"'
2010-04-05 18:44
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Are you using double density floppies?
High density won't work.

Are you sure the head of the drive is clean?

How does the drive respond when turned on, without computer attached?
2010-04-06 15:53
ElCharro
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I would spell out what is happening.

If I type

10 Open 15,8,15
20 Print# 15"Initialize"
30 Close 15

and give RUN the Floppy Disk Drive start spinning for few seconds then the red led start flashing and nothing happens.

If I do the format

Open 15,8,15,"N0:disk,00"

I do have file open error!

If I put another disk ( i.e. with games ) and type:

Load "$",8

I have

Searching for $ .
? File not found error
ready

Any hint please?

Thanks a Lot!
2010-04-07 06:35
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401
If it was a 1541 drive, i'd have a closer look at the logic chips... but 1570? I have no idea how this drive is constructed.
Does anyone have a schematic for 1570 ? - I can't seem to find any :(
2010-04-07 08:11
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
> 10 Open 15,8,15
> 20 Print# 15"Initialize"
> 30 Close 15

Try changing line 20 in:
20 Print#15,"initialize"
(A comma after 15 and no space after #)

> If I do the format
> Open 15,8,15,"N0:disk,00"
>
> I do have file open error!

That is because you already runned that basic program and the channel is already open.
First do CLOSE 15 and then try OPEN 15,8,15,"N0:disk,00" again.

If a disk is not formatted, loading the directory (LOAD"$",8) won't work.

So far, there's no proof that the drive is broken ;-)
2010-04-07 12:44
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1060
Read the drive's error channel so we can see what the actual error message is (not the message printed by basic):
LOAD"$",8
SEARCHING FOR $
?FILE NOT FOUND  ERROR
READY.
10 OPEN1,8,15:INPUT#1,A,B$,C,D:CLOSE1:PRINTA;B$;C;D
RUN
 21 READ ERROR 18  1   <- What's the error here with a known good disk?


Give us the errors from formatting (N0:) and initializing (I0:) as well.
2010-04-07 16:38
ElCharro
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After the initialize I have

with 10 Open 1,8,15
20 Print#15,"initialize"
30 close 15

I do have

20 Read Error 18 0

So? :(
2010-04-07 16:56
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1744
So, either of these:
- the disk is not formatted
- the disk is unreadable
- the drive is broken in some way

Now see what error you get if you try to format a disk.
And like stated above, make sure it's a 48 TPI double density disk.
 
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