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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
CSDb: quantify me
CSDb-based quantitative analyses of the C64 Scene
http://www.xentax.com/?page_id=235 |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
Excellent analysis! I'm gonna share it. |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
yeah might have been a touch more useful if it contained observations like the fact that the "boom time" could be directly mapped onto a timeline for maximum Compunet activity.
and the drop off fits quite nicely into the demise of said institution.
Raw data reveals very lttle without accompanying historical evidence.
Steve |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
i think i would have mentioned the CNET connection starting in 1985 and climbing rapidly in proliferation until about 1988, by which point many of the the more prolific and capable demo teams had made the transition to commercial productions, and with the introduction of 16 bit machines at affordable prices there were much fewer "replacements" waiting in the wings to take their place coding c64 demos so the decline set in.
Steve |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Steve, agreed. I know there's a lot more to it then meets the eye. Without having all the data, I can't do much yet. As I said, it is pretty superficial. Given the circumstances, this is what I can work with at the moment. |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
There are some interesting peaks in there and it'd be cool to find out exactly what they coincide with. eg with newer stuff, do the graphics release coincide with Timanthes/P1 or other graphic apps or maybe new techniques like FLI. Do the upturns in music releases match new editors like Goat Tracker etc
You could spend forever researching this stuff ;)
Pete |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
imho Compunet just reflects the activity, it's not a cause for it. Same for demo groups. I dont know of any mass exodus of them going commercial. |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 895 |
You, my friend, are truly ahead of time :) Nice page! |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Thanks WVL, Skate :) |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074 |
I love this.
+1 for mapping trends to certain events.
The wave-pattern of GFX and MSX releases needs more analysis too. |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
Oswald, being honest mate only someone not actually on cnet would say it wasnt the driving force on the most prolific demo scene of the mid-late 80s.
and being as how pretty much all of the prolific demo writers on it had gone commercial or stopped by '88 i think i really do have a point.
eg. Ian & Mic, Mat & Psy, Bob & Doug, Ash & Dave, Meanteam, Kernal, BWB etc.
These guys alone account for a fairly sizable wedge of the demo relases for 86-88.
I agree with JCB about the stand alone music releases, their increase would almost certainly coincide with the availability of soundmonitor, then rockmonitor, goattracker etc. basically music access for the non coding musicians (like matt gray in the beginning).
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