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2004-02-03 08:59
Hero

Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 90
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I think its a shame to see ILLUSION down on #44 place. But i guess its the users on csdb who makes the charts! and we got only 20 votes!!

Hero/ILLUSION

2004-02-03 09:53
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274
Well it is not that easy to compete with demo or demo/cracking groups if you are "just" crackers.

Better check the top "cracker groups" section there you are #17 in alltime. Well if you wipe out the older groups you are on top anyways.

And don't actually think that these charts mean anything .-D

A lot of hyping, a lot of overweight nostalgia, downvoting and old stuff normally hasnt got any chance anyways.

So the charts are more or less just some fun stuff.


2004-02-03 11:34
Dwangi

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130
don't take those charts too serious, illusion is at #11 on the cracker charts and that should be enough for them/you. i think it's a shame that gwb is the president of usa and a shame that sweden is not member of the euro-zone, but as you said csdb users decide/vote.
2004-02-03 12:42
Westbam
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192
Well Harry, Illusion / Legend on #11 and #12 but Beyond Force on #2... I don´t get it either but it is the way people vote. I don´t think that is to be taken too serious I guess...

Remember the old disk mags? The voting in the cracking magazines that lived of votings from people that called the top boards were always decent in one way or another but the mags who mainly got mailtrader votings were already kinda fucked up back then...

btw we all know that Illusion was lame as hell anyhow and they made it on #11 so far.... Buhahaha!

2004-02-03 13:04
Dishy

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241
Quote: I think its a shame to see ILLUSION down on #44 place. But i guess its the users on csdb who makes the charts! and we got only 20 votes!!

Hero/ILLUSION



Hi Harry.

I can only agree with you - and Slator too indeed. ILS sure have deserved some more votes. Illusion at #44 is way to low, I think. But atleast you should be glad, that Illusion actually haven´t got any of those downvotes (yet!?!?). Look at Dominators, Ikari, Legend, Chromance, Talent and other top groups, and you´ll see, that some people actually voted "1" and "2". That I don´t understand!!! How can someone actually vote "1" on a group like DOMINATORS? I also think an old group like Nato(Hi Tiger) deserves much more votes. Not only were Nato awesome on the cracking scene with crackers like Megasnail etc., but also Maduplec/Crest made some great demos/coding for them back then. And I could go on and on like this. But ILS at #44 today in the year of 2004, hehe.. Yes, that just confirms me about, that it´s a hell lot of years ago since I was active on in the C64.


Dishy - keep the c64 alive - Dishy
2004-02-03 14:09
Hero

Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 90
Gee i feel like 18 again. I have always loved the Charts. And still do. Well we went from # 44 to # 17 on Top Groups, and am glad to see Legend at # 18.. haha Westbam. And we are Nr # 11 at cracker charts, and Legend at # 12. Haha Mike. THE HIGHEST CLIMBER THIS WEEK ILLUSION!! THJHHOOO
we had some good fights back then Westbam. And thanx to evrybody who votes! i think this is fun!

HERO/ILLUSION

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2004-02-03 15:22
Hero

Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 90
Me again!

Feel free to vote for Hero toooooooooooooooooo!

perhaps someone can add some Charts from 1989 - 1993



Harry

2004-02-03 18:06
Westbam
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 192
Sorry but Nato is somehow something like Zenith. They had loads of warez in their prime time and loads of bad or nonworking cracks...

Actually votes are always pulled on subjective points of view from the person itself. So if someone considered Beyond Force for example the best cracker group he saw, it´s ok. It is his opinion and that´s fine...

As I said, I for myself consider Zenith for example a crap group because Steve couldn´t crack a fuck...
2004-02-03 18:53
Hero

Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 90
well Zenith had their top. And Steve was a nice dude.
So i think Zenith was a good group. And Mike you had your top when you called yourself Narc!hehe

Harry
2004-02-03 18:56
Dishy

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241
Well Mike, atleast this is actually my frankly opinion about Nato. I´m not saying that Nato was able to cope with Legend, Ikari,Dominators, Papillons etc. on only the cracking part, but I certainly do think, that if you look at Nato as an overall group - both as a demogroup(B.U.D.S. with Maduplec)and crackinggroup with Maduplec/Dominators and Megasnail, I actually think they did very well.

Dishy - keep the c64 alive - Dishy
2004-02-03 19:03
Hero

Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 90
Nato : well i remember when i was a swapper, i think i dude called Tiger in Nato, was sending me disks almost everyday. guess i have some disks who belongs to him. He was a good swapper.

Harry
 
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