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grasstust
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43 |
What's stopping someone from creating a fake account for downvoting?
I just don't get why people are allowed to vote anonymously...
What's stopping me then, from making a new fake account just
for down (or up)-voting someone?
I think this happened to Offence's Trick and Treat. Somebody just
made a fake account and voted 1 and 2. And it just fell from top 10 to
below 70.
I have never seen a downvoter voting with a handle, they're all anonymous...
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2581 |
I guess the point is that every new account is checked and approved by the moderators. Plus, why bother to create a fake account, when you can downvote anonymously anyway? :-)
But the story is endless, I hope this system will be deinstalled (or radically overhauled) for the sake of peace and quiet here, and especially to stop distracting from the real purpose of this great site: preservation of scene history. |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
And you get bugged by the moderators / perff if you do... I know what I'm talking about ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
i can assure you that every vote less than 5 (did not bother checking the rest) comes from legit accounts. |
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grasstust
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43 |
>Plus, why bother to create a fake account, when you can downvote
>anonymously anyway? :-)
To downvote more than once.
OK, so the checking process is thorough, good to hear. But why have anonymous voting at all, clearly a lot of the downvoting would not be done if people had to take responsibility for their votes. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Man I'm so sad I can't create and send you some potion that you can drink and start to see the voting hubble bubble as I see :) |
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grasstust
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43 |
Well, I do agree about not taking voting very seriously. But voting is used for stand alone compos aswell as a nice reward for a group to be appreciated. I mean, even HCL started complaining about a demo not deserving a top 10 placement, so it is taken at bit serious among the people on it.
And yeah, for better or worse, I think competition and lists have always been a strong force in the scene, even now that we've grown old and grey. :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
"But why have anonymous voting at all, clearly a lot of the downvoting would not be done if people had to take responsibility for their votes."
what responsibility? everyone is allowed to vote what he likes. everyone is allowed to think demo xyz sucks for whatever arbitrary reason and "downvote" it accordingly. and he can do it anonymously to make exactly that possible for everyone, including those who dont feel like discussing their arbitrary taste in public each time they bother to vote. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2219 |
Quote: Well, I do agree about not taking voting very seriously. But voting is used for stand alone compos aswell as a nice reward for a group to be appreciated. I mean, even HCL started complaining about a demo not deserving a top 10 placement, so it is taken at bit serious among the people on it.
And yeah, for better or worse, I think competition and lists have always been a strong force in the scene, even now that we've grown old and grey. :)
Quote:Man I'm so sad I can't create and send you some potion that you can drink and start to see the voting hubble bubble as I see :)
Word up & Cheers from one of the "worst" coders that ever breathed! :) Didn't stop me, though. |
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grasstust
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43 |
Because the system is clearly getting exploited. And I think if people are afraid to stand behind their vote with their alias then maybe they shouldn't vote. Or their vote should count less. :) |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2219 |
I totally agree that the current system in some cases tells more about how popular/hated sb is than about skills/quality. Recognizing that I'm "hated" enough to be downvoted anonymously rather encouraged me to make my own votes public than to define myself by taking those votes TOO seriously, otherwise I'd have thrown my hardware out of the window/killed myself/changed to Atari coding forever long ago. ;)
In general, I appreciate feedback very much and think, justified/constructive criticism helps you to improve. The comments are much more interesting to me than anonymous votes.
However, there are so many more serious issues in the world than the (in some respect stupid) CSDb voting system. At least it's sth to complain about/always a good icebreaker topic if you wanna start a conversation IRL with a scener you never talked to before :)
This so-called "weighted" (others would just call it "wrong") average calculation is sth which could easily be fixed without much ado/protests :)
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