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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589 |
WANTED: SYS-lines from common packers
Hi all,
as the problem pops up time and again that cracks are added here with their attribution to a certain group based on the SYS-line, where it turns out that it is just packed with the group's packer, I'd like to request that we gather as much info on such packers as possible with the respective SYS-lines that they produce; the list could then be even added to the csdb rules, to avoid such confusion in the future (at least to be cautious in such cases and look for further evidence).
I've made that mistake myself several times, and it is very frustrating to create entries only to delete them afterwards, because one didn't know.
What do you guys think?
Best,
Bugjam |
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icon
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 90 |
Sounds like a great idea. I have added cracks that says Computerbrains in SYS-line, but Im FAR from sure it is released by them. |
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icon
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 90 |
On the other hand many packers starts with 2064 and 2066 so we need more specific information in that database to sort them all out AND what also is a trapdoor here is ofcoz could a group use their own packer for a release. But your suggestion is a step in the right direction. |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
nobody should take what is written in a BASIC SYS line as proof of credit or whatever it may be. I don't think collecting every SYS line generated by whatever cruncher would be useful. just don't rely on them to begin with :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
indeed.... if anything, it only can give hints, and only for stuff released until 1985 or so |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Agreed. Quite a lot of packers were spread/leaked and games packed with them could be done by more or less anyone.
These recent additions f ex were most likely not released by Ikari: Asteroids 64, Frogger, Laser Strike, 1994 - Ten Years After, Starfighter I |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
are you saying those TOSEC names are bullshit? unpossible! |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589 |
Regarding those IKARI releases, I have already PMed the uploader, explaining the issue.
Of course not every SYS-line needs to be collected; many didn't have the group name in it to start with.
On the other hand, there _are_ legit releases and groups/crackers that used that practice.
But if it's considered a bad idea, fine; so far there seems to be noone with the right knowledge willing to contribute information anway. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Quote:On the other hand, there _are_ legit releases and groups/crackers that used that practice.
as said, mostly 1985ish stuff... a year or two later not so much :) |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589 |
Yes, but how should people know? |
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Dymo
Registered: Jun 2016
Posts: 120 |
Perhaps a link to a forumpost, in the certain known "packers" particular group.. Before uploading a release by group XXX, please check here:
Or something like that? |
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