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2018-09-16 16:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
working AREX crack

somehow i stumbled about Arex [lightpen] when looking for some more stuff to add to my list of things that support lightpen/gun... however this one doesnt really work (same for the one in gamebase, likely the same thing). if you look at youtube videos you'll see that eg in the title screen the enemy things should move all the time, not only when holding down some key(s) :) also the game itself doesnt work at all (if you somehow manage to start it, by using f-keys and other keys together...). just took a quick peek at the memory, looks like a screwed up freeze to me. oh well. just curious :=)
2018-09-17 13:43
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648
This may be wrong, or irrelevant in this particular case, but I seem to remember that some lightguns are wired in an inverted way, so that NOT pressing fire on them has the same effect as pressing fire on an ordinary joystick, and vice versa. If so, I imagine that this could cause interference with keyboard handling code?
2018-09-17 20:47
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
mmmmh i'll check this. could be
fooled around with it a bit... it doesnt make sense to me :)

unfortunately very little info can be found about this game... but apparently there exists an atari800 version, which supports the atari lightpen - which is one of the variants emulated by VICE. i would assume the c64 version also uses this one. but who knows. perhaps its just the freezing that fucked it up somehow. *shrug*
2018-09-18 01:22
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
edit: hedning provided another version... which effectively was one byte different :) changing that byte from ff to d0 (*) makes at least the title screen "work". its still hard to tell how to exactly use the menu though. or the keyboard scanning is just super shit. also apparently you have to use the joystick in port1, not lightpen. *shrug*

(*)
.C:2682  4C FF 26    JMP $26FF  ; should be jmp $26d0


PS: that "frozen" version doesnt seem "frozen" at all, just packed
2018-09-18 06:49
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732
Read the docs. :)
2018-09-18 18:27
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
well, did you? it just doesnt work right :) you can sometimes, with luck, get into the game somehow by bashing random keys. i didnt manage to move the pointer in the menu at all, joysticks, keys, nothing works.
2018-09-18 18:37
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732
Quote: well, did you? it just doesnt work right :) you can sometimes, with luck, get into the game somehow by bashing random keys. i didnt manage to move the pointer in the menu at all, joysticks, keys, nothing works.

Yes I did read the docs. First of all: don't load it with cartridge. Second: joy in port 1. Then you can use the menu.
2018-09-18 19:11
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
wth :) it works with the version you sent. but only if you load it manually, and only using the "booter" on that d64. after that, it even keeps working after reset and restart. wtf :)
2018-09-18 19:28
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732
Quote: wth :) it works with the version you sent. but only if you load it manually, and only using the "booter" on that d64. after that, it even keeps working after reset and restart. wtf :)

Yup! That is why I sent it to you. It works. :)
2018-09-18 19:40
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
now i am really curious wtf is happening there :=) also why the fucking autostart screws things up again. BAH
2018-09-19 08:26
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Let a real cracker handle that :)
 
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