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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271 |
Downloads and votes and the public
We in offence got this mail, and also several others like it in meaning... I think this is something we could have a talk about as it is something that is a bit important. It really is, because there are so many people out there actually liking the things we do create. CSDB is a hangaround place where we get away from the rest of the world maybe but could we do something with this in future?
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Hey,
can you forward this to Ole Marius?
He said that "hundreds of people download tunes to check them out, but only 20 or so care to vote" about the Highscore Ballad Compo. Well ... I know why! You can't get an account at CSDb unless you can call yourself active in the scene, so lots and lots and lots of people out there will never have an account (= can't vote) because they don't know how to code / to make a SID / whatever. And since I don't have an account either, I can't tell him that ... :)
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Just something I think is important to talk about.... |
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G-Fellow
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 103 |
Talking about getting fresh blood to the C64 scene, mentioned above. Someone could make here in the CSDb a "How to start your C64 szene career" with alot links to most useful tools for coders, graphicians and musicians. Also links to descriptions of several tools such a link to the C64 http://codebase64.org/doku.php Also with hints for the best tools in use with the a C64 Emulator, for example which Cartridge tool and hints to the best hardware tools, for example 1541Ultimate-II.
This "How to start" could be above in the Help section or it get a own area. Maybe there could be made a Beginner and Advanced "How to start".
Than every possible new scener can create his own first C64 product, a PC graphician can use several tools to make C64 graphics, a C++ coder could learn coding on the C64 and a PC musician could learn some of the C64 music-editors. The people could than create directly a own product and release it at the CSDb and get the full C64 szene CSDb account.
If this not already exist somewhere... |
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OMP
Registered: Apr 2009
Posts: 10 |
Ah, they're not voting cause they can't... Of course. Never thought about that. Not sure I knew either. So I can't create profiles to vote all my shit up?
Those are all interesting questions raised here. Should perhaps be able to have guest members of some kind. But as mentioned this isn't Lemon or Pouet or what ever. Hmmm
Hmmmm
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Dane
Account closed
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
Hmmmm indeed.
PAL wants to let all of his friends in here so they can vote for his stuff.
STE wants to allow access to a hitherto unknown phalanx that is too refined for CSDB.
DANE wants public votes. Or no votes at all. I think it's been at last two months since we had that old thread bumped.
And browsing the thread I see that almost everybody got what they wanted. Except me. Bummer. |
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Kristian
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 126 |
And I want 100% anonymous votes in competitions or/and without the possibility to change it whenever a vote is given. Actually I'd like to see the vote statistics hidden as long as the voting is going on as well. And to get rid of a little bit of the downvoting we can do like they do in ski jumping: Remove the highest and lowest votes and make an average of the rest... or something like that :) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
Kristian, you will get your 100% anonymous voting (and 100% anonymous entries) in upcoming C64.sk Sid Compo. ;-)) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186 |
The way the competition was started here is actually an abuse of CSDb, strictly speaking. This is a database where to document releases and party/compos held somewhere else, and votes on single entries here shouldn't be mixed with the compo votes, they don't reflect those in the actual compo in an absolute manner, because people can still vote entries after the compo ended and results published. CSDb in other words, isn't actually the place to hold compos, but only to document them. Hence, the request for changing how things work here to make better compo voting, shouldn't get any consequences. Make a site, put stuff there and manage your voting as you want. my 2 cents. |
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Kristian
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 126 |
Creamd, looking forward to it :) |
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Kristian
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 126 |
Ian, that's true, but maybe CSDB could expand a little to cover those things as well? I mean, since (some) of the active people are already here, why "chase" them elsewhere to have their fun? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
The place is visited and motivates it's community to be creative, so it would be useful to have tools for online compo organising. There is a lot of stuff that could be done to move this site to next level. Allowing guest accounts (for non-editor) is one of them. Ditching of anonymous voting another (hi Dane ;-) |
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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271 |
I think you are getting a bit to blue-screen nerdy a lot of times... I just thought I would post that email here because I think it is important to have a talk on these matters... It is no personal thing from me? I do not even know that guy... and all I said were that even MY PAYING CLIENTS, THE ONES THET PAY FOR MY HOURS AT WORK do watch the c64 demos on youtube and think it is really great... And to me that is really exciting... it is just outstandingly cool. This is not people sitting at the room in their parents home, it is grown people of both gender thinking these rear things are cool... it is even people that do not know the machine at all... but they like the style and retro and sound or different things... it is worth taking into consideration for our community and that were my thought on posting something about it here.
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