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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Group id #148 : Fantastic 4 Cracking Group
Wouldn't it be more fitting to have F4CG as main name, and the long form as AKA, nobody back in the days used the term 'Fantastic 4 Cracking Group', neither their members nor someone else in mags or greetings. Looks weird.
Looking at SHAPE, they used their short form too. |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Fill me in on something here, if Ricky founded this group in 1983, why is their first release at CSDb from 1986? That year it was 2 out of 687.
Second, what was up with the name, the fantastic 4? Looking at their "member" list they practically hired everyone at some point. :P
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Quote:Fill me in on something here, if Ricky founded this group in 1983, why is their first release at CSDb from 1986? That year it was 2 out of 687.
because a lot of releases are still missing and/or classified wrong/not at all ? none of my releases from 1986 is here either, and i doubt it ever will be, its simply lost - like a lot of stuff from that era. |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
I know that was going to be the answer, but it is still too bad that evidence is lost then. How about the 4, did 4 start the group in the beginning? |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Mr.Mouse - originally 4 members and then expanding.
Same can be said for Shining 8 - originally 8 members, would like to know which 8 actually as Devil666, Fletch, Paco, Romrunner, Scum and Trashcan are only 6 that I know.
http://www.mirrorfox.com/videos/5811/shining-8---the-story.html may give more information but I need someone to translate for me :D |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Quote: Mr.Mouse - originally 4 members and then expanding.
Same can be said for Shining 8 - originally 8 members, would like to know which 8 actually as Devil666, Fletch, Paco, Romrunner, Scum and Trashcan are only 6 that I know.
http://www.mirrorfox.com/videos/5811/shining-8---the-story.html may give more information but I need someone to translate for me :D
I could do it, but would have to strain a bit as the sound of the video is bad. I'm sure there a plenty of native Germans here who could help you out there though ;) |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Quote: Quote:Fill me in on something here, if Ricky founded this group in 1983, why is their first release at CSDb from 1986? That year it was 2 out of 687.
because a lot of releases are still missing and/or classified wrong/not at all ? none of my releases from 1986 is here either, and i doubt it ever will be, its simply lost - like a lot of stuff from that era.
So how can it be lost if it was released in the scene? That makes no sense. It should be somewhere. Just like all the other stuff. With so many releases already on CSDb from all eras, I'd think if there were releases from an earlier period, they would be known to others. The other option is there was no release, or no release worth uploading. And yet another option is that there was no scene before the boom (1986). And if there was no scene, you cannot claim to have been part of something that wasn't there. |
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Marauder/GSS
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Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 224 |
Quote: Mr.Mouse - originally 4 members and then expanding.
Same can be said for Shining 8 - originally 8 members, would like to know which 8 actually as Devil666, Fletch, Paco, Romrunner, Scum and Trashcan are only 6 that I know.
http://www.mirrorfox.com/videos/5811/shining-8---the-story.html may give more information but I need someone to translate for me :D
Jazzcat, according to the video around 4mins they were initially 6 members searching for new name (were they called Kamikaze Crew before? as they tell something about that crew died after being catched by police)... the name originates from the movie "shining" by Stanley Kubrick (book from Stephen King, guess you know that!) and they wanted to have a number in their name... shining 2001...shining 6... sounded all bad and there were two other guys sitting around, crash and nightmare, which became members then and shining 8 was born.
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
At least The Fantastic Five had the decency to dissolve before they became untrue to their name ;) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Marauder: thanks for that! Explains a lot. Yes indeed, they were Kamikaze Crew before (Kamikaze was their main coder then). Cheers! |
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Spinball
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 88 |
Is it so hard to beleave that a lot of stuff from the early days is lost for ever? the scene was small and many disks got deleted, broke or where thrown away. no one dokumented the releases (no mags in the early days) and many sceners didn´t care about their releases when they left or moved on to another platform. not only the files are gone, but also the information that they existed at all.
so i guess we can be happy that so many old stuff made it to csdb, but we will never know how much is lost for ever.
Quoting Mr. MouseSo how can it be lost if it was released in the scene? That makes no sense. It should be somewhere. Just like all the other stuff. With so many releases already on CSDb from all eras, I'd think if there were releases from an earlier period, they would be known to others. The other option is there was no release, or no release worth uploading. And yet another option is that there was no scene before the boom (1986). And if there was no scene, you cannot claim to have been part of something that wasn't there. |
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