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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Release id #88112 : Heil Hitler
This release kicks off a needed discussion about introducing any 'sensitive' (in many meanings of that word) material to this database.
Once again, there should be some rules about such things. Example - besides the above release - is stuff that is offensive to some sceners, done by other sceners in bad taste and certainly not good intentions... I also have some things like this in my collection, but uptil now decided not to share it.
Can we maybe appoint some general approach to this?? |
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Ventura
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Registered: Jan 2006
Posts: 67 |
Quote: History: The fight between Fascism, Communism and Left (which sometimes led to war).
Very much alive today, in many countries. Racism is just a side-effect, instigated by social circumstances. |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
Quoting MagerValp...the server is located in Denmark, isn't it? Racism seems to be downright encouraged there these days...
I wonder which kind of media focus leads people to get this impression.
Personnaly it's my IMPRESSION that there's a way larger percentile of people with anti-racial/anti-some-religion views in both .se and .de, than in .dk.
Facts? I have NO idea ;-)
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tnu
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Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 42 |
....why dont we leave this political/racial/hate/blah blah debate and conentrate on what this database is all about......??? |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
I think history should be preserved here.
The google-hits on keywords is an issue though.
Call me a sissy but two alternatives from the top of my head:
*** the name?
H***H**** and use the *-text in the aka: eil itler or something like that.
And/or add a line that 'explains' us. I know especially the latter is lame but won't hurt either.
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
As for the wider scope of this discussion: Of course there can be some material that shouldn't be added to CSDb even if it has been "released", for example stuff that could really hurt and/or put currently existing people in danger. If someone were to create a CSDb release titled "<scener's real name> is a paedophile" it should for example be removed immediately, for obvious reasons, no matter if it was "released" or not. |
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Shadow
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 355 |
I don't think we should put too much weight on the political aspects of these old demos.
I mean, I used a graphics of the Soviet "Hammer and sickle" symbol in Time Out and it sure as hell wasn't any political statement, I was (and still am) as far as you can possible get from a communist. It was just a thing that Triad used, so I used it too.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
"The google-hits on keywords is an issue though."
please try typing "hitler" into the searchbar here. no, i dont see how these 3 hits are an issue at all. i get more hits than that at wikipedia when searching for the same thing :)
radiantx: that kind of stuff is more or less hypothetical though, and certainly doesnt apply to stuff from 20 years ago :) (to bad it doesnt apply to stuff that hurt my eyes and/or ears either) |
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Ventura
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Registered: Jan 2006
Posts: 67 |
"google-hits", "server-locations", hypothetical maybe's... nonsense!.
Stop pissing around the pot and do something constructive. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928 |
Oh boy, don't let the politicos get control here. After these words are censored then we'll move on to other words/phrases. In about a year, the name of the website will need to be changed to "Such-and-suchs political C64 View".
I think one of the reasons the scene exists is to get away from the "real world" and it seems some people think we should drag it into CSDb. Fuck no, make your own website and then add your own "PC rules".
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assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
Quote:for example stuff that could really hurt and/or put currently existing people in danger
yes lets delete all cracks! |
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