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2006-02-21 18:17
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 245
SDI 2.0 Beta

Hi.
A working preview here:
http://home.eunet.no/~ggallefo/sdi/

Report your bugs and thoughts here:

GRG
 
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2006-03-10 10:17
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648
@j0x: The latter approach sounds quite cool, albeit a bit cumbersome too I guess. I thought about it too, but scrapped the idea. If I would do it, I would do it the way Cadaver also suggested here, by converting tables of data into to code. That would also get rid of the raster eating "virtual machine" as he called it.

@j0x: Yes, SDI is along the lines of the Hubbard tradition.
2006-03-10 11:00
Dane

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 423
You want a flexible editor and a streamlined finished product in terms of rastertime and/or memory usage. I can recommend assembler optimizing once you're done with the composing bit.
2006-03-10 12:23
Bamu®
Account closed

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332
Quote: Hehe, Thanks :) I have a early light version of sdi from 1994.. have a look :

http://home.eunet.no/~ggallefo/pix/oldgt.png

Btw, How do i display pics in my posts ?

Murdock: I dont have a double sid myself. But if I had one
I would do it just for the fun :)



and where can I download it? :-O
2006-03-15 14:36
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 481
Hi GRG!

I'm not much into composing music, but may I ask why SDI includes an NTSC sound table? It's more than a half note off on pal systems.

I've noticed this problem with DMC first, as a lot a years ago Perplex/Singular complained that there's something wrong. He composed on a synth and then had trouble with converting he's works to C64, as even shifting notes was not accurate enough.

Is there any possibility to include a selectable pal table? I can send you a corrected one for SDI.

I understand that simply removing the false ntsc table would ruin the unique SID sound ;)
2006-03-16 08:05
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 245
Soci: I was unaware of this, send me your paltable so i can check.

2006-03-16 08:30
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
I tried the 2.0 beta 6 out, but had some problems getting the "synth" mode to work. There were no problems replaying tunes correctly, but I got no sound at all when editing.
2006-03-16 08:50
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 245
Quote: I tried the 2.0 beta 6 out, but had some problems getting the "synth" mode to work. There were no problems replaying tunes correctly, but I got no sound at all when editing.

You cannot use the synth in the sound editor,
place your cursor in the sequencer and press F4 to set synth mode (blue edit bar).

You have to enter the sound (00-1f) or arpeggio (40-6f)
you want to use in the sequencer.
Now you should get sound.

You can also enter a glide value (21-3f).
Now hold down shift and press a synth key.

GRG
2006-03-16 09:00
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
I did all things mentioned, still no sound.
2006-03-16 09:07
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 245
Quote: I did all things mentioned, still no sound.

Weird, check if this is ok on your side:

1. You need instruments in memory.
2. Make sure the channel you are using is turned on.
3. You will not get a sound output while using channel 4.
4. You will not get a sound output while editing tracks.
5. And finally, Your cursor must be inside the note column.

And if you set the cursor jumper to 00 (with shift+a or cbm+a) the cursor wont move while you play around on the synth.

GRG
2006-03-16 20:32
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Quote: Hi GRG!

I'm not much into composing music, but may I ask why SDI includes an NTSC sound table? It's more than a half note off on pal systems.

I've noticed this problem with DMC first, as a lot a years ago Perplex/Singular complained that there's something wrong. He composed on a synth and then had trouble with converting he's works to C64, as even shifting notes was not accurate enough.

Is there any possibility to include a selectable pal table? I can send you a corrected one for SDI.

I understand that simply removing the false ntsc table would ruin the unique SID sound ;)


Maybe this is a silly question, but is it a fact that a SID chip in an NTSC 64 produces a different pitch then a PAL 64 with the same values stored in the SID frequency registers? The bible says nothing about this, as far as I can see. Actually there's only one table of music notes and their sid frequency values.
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