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2007-01-09 19:39
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
New SID frontend released !!

Hello fellow C64 freaks!

I just wanted to let you know that there is a new SID frontend available to the public now. It has features no other SID tool offers since today:

* Support Sidplay2/w for playback
* Support TinySID for playback
* Easy access to the entire High Voltage Sid Collection
* Easy single-click interface
* Songlength database support
* Continuous play to discover SIDs unknown to you
* Playlist support with ability to add certain subsongs
* Experimental sid2midi support (sid2midi.exe not included)
* Built in search function
* Build on .NET framework 2.0 (required)

Steppe from HVSC suggested i shall promote it here. So did i. Hope you like it.

http://sidtool.drool.de/

Regards,
Madman
 
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2007-01-18 16:20
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
I'm getting crashes with strange error message too once in a while, just so you know. Never was able to reproduce it though, so I didn't mention it yet.
2007-01-18 16:40
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Well if its of any help, only use it with HVSC 45
Any other folder may not have the Songlength.txt at the desired place, or STIL isnt located or missing etc. etc.
which may lead to curious behaviour of the programm.

Any crash i encounter i will hunt down.
2007-01-18 18:00
tora
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 6
Hi again!

I managed to capture on video that odd bug, and in two different situations ;)

You can download a zip containing the videos and the text of the error description here:

bug_captures.zip

Also both situations can be reproduced.

The second video what does not show is that I accidentally 'dragged' the mouse before selecting another composer. Also you can get that situation if you select a composer with the mouse, but then you use the keyboard to move to another.

I hope this can help you to fix it :)

Regards.
2007-01-18 20:31
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Wow, amazing. Visual proof of lame coding LOL just kidding :)
These videos help a lot. I note on the first bug, he actually displays the following tune, but for some reason crashes then instead of playing it. Also your Sidlist gets cleared when you enable STIL. These infos help me localize the buggy part of the code.

What did you do these videos with ? That tool may come in handy later.

Believe me or not: For some weird reason these bugs dont appear here on my machine. Then again i allready worked a few more bugs out, which may have caused these crashes. Maybe. Please download http://sidtool.drool.de/ReleaseTEST.zip
(its in verbose mode, so dont get scared on the message it couldnt find sidtool.ini on first launch)

If you still get these crashes with that version, i have 2 suspects:
One i eleminated in the test version, that is if the tool cant determine which node aka composer is selected. I set that to the first one then to prevent the crash.
The second suspect must be the continuous Play feature.

Can you try the first one again without enabling STIL ?
The second one makes no sense at all for me at the moment...

Thx a lot for your effort helping me sorting this crap out :)





2007-01-19 00:43
tora
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 6
Hi Madman!

I couldn't reproduce any of the problems with that version. Looks like you defeated those bugs! Congratulations! :D

The software I used to capture the screen is Camstudio. You can find it here:

www.camstudio.org

And I'm pleased to help you as I find this tool very handy :D
2007-01-19 08:28
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Yay, i'm glad to hear that :o)

I will release the current version later today then.
If any other problems occur, let me know.

One last note: The tool is meant to be used with the HVSC only so far. The HVSC should also be unaltered, means no SIDs, testfiles or folders should be deleted in the HVSC.
Otherwise the integrity of the data may become corrupt.
Means, STIL search could bring up files you have deleted, leading to a crash.

This especially may happen if used to browse the HVSC46 beta folder or some personal SID folder, which has no STIL file for example. Or no Songlength.txt.

I will try to get these Problems solved in the following versions.

2007-01-19 14:43
Vai

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 50
nevermind the bug I mentioned with the 2nd monitor, I've tried the 0.9 now and it doesn't occur anymore.
2007-01-19 15:07
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
great, thanks for the info.

i guess we may have a 1.0 RC1 here then. :D
Anyway, i put it up as 0.9.2 now.

I have some more things i like to add, some suggested by testers: :
- Auto switch to sidplay2 if continuous Play with subsongs enabled
- Advanced search: Add buttons to narrow fields being searched in (sometimes gets too many results)
- Make title in Advanced Search results clickable to order the results
- Remember last used Player
- Save PlayList temporary and reload temporary PL
- Auto find SID in HVSC when clicked on in Advanced Search

Did i miss anything ?

2007-01-20 16:10
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
0.9.4 is out.

Fixed like a dozend bugs Yodelking pointed out. Thx dude!
Added SLDB override support on Steppes request.
New Playlist features (old one still compatible, but that wont help much if hvsc46 is out i guess)
Now adds current _playing_ song to Playlist instead of selected one from HVSC. Nice for adding search results. :)
This and that...

2007-01-20 16:54
Tchad

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 8
Good first impression, especially how the HVSC is handled.

Anyway, maybe this is silly but I have this dream about being able to scrobble SIDs on the www.last.fm site. Basically, this is a site that keeps track of what music you listen to by letting you download a plug-in to your favourite desktop audio-player. By transmitting the metadata of the song, it collects listening statistics and gives you recommendations accordingly.

There's loads more to it than this, but I hope you get the basic idea. However, there is AFAIK no SID player around that supports scrobbling. Foobar with a SID plug-in has made the best attempt, but it gets confused about the fact that there are no well defined songlengths.

Madman:
Have a look at
http://www.last.fm/tools/downloads
and in particular
svn://svn.audioscrobbler.net/ScrobSub
and see if this is something you'd want to consider. Would be much appreciated ;-)

The word on the street is that all there is to do is to consider four player events (start, stop, pause and resume) and just call the appropriate method in the downloadable (if you'd want to install SVN) sourcecode.

Cheers,

Mattias - www.last.fm/user/gratishora
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