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2003-04-28 11:24

Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Cracks and Crack Intros in CSDb

Seems most people agreed not to add commercial games into the scene database, well after all, the project's name is SCENE database, therefore it's only logical. Delete them. If you want to add games into a database support Gamebase 64 or UVL or any other.

Twoflower states he won't add cracks to the Triad entry for the reason of its length. This isn't a reason to exclude them, but a job for the database coders to split up the chronological group release list into demos and cracks.

Of course cracks are part of the scene and i even add the job of doing a crack intro to the demo scene work. Problem occures crack intros aren't released as stand-alones but only in conjunction with cracks. It's wrong to say Remember released their Satan intro in 1997, ignoring it was linked onto a crack.

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2003-05-02 13:23

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384

Yes i understand that for some its still a problem... even we try to be as legal as we can be on our site for that matter (although a lot of the stuff there is pretty much on the borderline, hence the selfprotecting via hiding).

mmmh. for once i would personally like a database for the cracks (since once a number of major groups have their releases added, we could do a lot of interisting statistics :=P)

on the other hand, linking to the actual binaries is atleast questionable.

tjam, now the question is, would the simple *mention* of a certain illegal content ("we have cracked this and that") fall into the same cathegory already? can we say "pacman+7h/lxt" or even "lxt-pacman+7h.lnx.gz". is the latter already a link (easy to find the actual binary with google if you have the filename used on ftp sites) ?

hrm, and taking latest stupido german laws into account... do we have to declare our pages as XXX rated now? :O) (and seriously, this question beats me, do demos and simelar media fall into this shit aswell?)

2003-05-03 09:18

Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202

The mention of the existance of a crack cannot be illegal by itself, but any info on where you find is indeed questionable.. I don't see a way to mention a filename without making it an obvious hint... other than maybe making it the record identifier in the database and "accidentally" show it somewhere in the URL to the database page without any further mention of that fact =)

as for the new german JuSchG ... I don't think it covers demos (as long as there's no interactive element in it... I remember some Wonderland part had a playable Tetris in it, which would probably make it a game again), but according to it any game downloads of C64 games should not be made available to anyone under 18... which at least will have an impact on digitalexcess.de sometime the next few days, even if we only have 2 games or so downloadable...

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