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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Friend lists (CSDb as a Social Networking site...eeek!)
The scene was always friendshipbased, right?
So wouldn't it be a nice idea to add some kind of friend list in your profile?
Not only to jump on the social networking bandwagon but also to shield off some (personal) data you only wish to share with good scene-friends like phonenumbers, IM info and addresses.
Just a sunday afternoon brainwave. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
the problem could be solved with having 'public' and 'private' tags. public ones would be a list of tags maintained by the csdb staff, private ones would be free so fex. one can tag his fave releases, which would be a great thing to have to browse through one's fave stuff, or any criteria upon one user groups entrys. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
So basically you have two problems which could be very easily solved.
Problem one: mistrust for imbecile CSDb users.
Solution one: allow tagging for only a few trusted users who understand the concept of tags and volunteer for the job. Say, a couple of sceners who are experts in their area. So there wouldn't be stupidities included.
Problem two: the amount of tags
Solution two: limit. We definitely don't need dozens of them.
And the benefits would be huge: easier navigation, perspicuity, more practical browsing, very convenient and simple way of search for releases which are alike (eg. imagine finding similar styles, effects, concepts, motives, etc, etc. on a single click instead of asking on the forum)
Btw. I completely disagree that the IMDb keywords are not useful. I've found hidden movie gems only by the help of tags numerous of times. And I spend quite a lot of time on IMDb by checking out tags and browsing through movies which are connected to them. It's definitely one of the most helpful function if a site is built around a database. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quoting Groepaz(and your imdb link actually shows it - lots of meaningless duplicated crap)
Quoting MagerValpIMDB is a perfect example of tags not working. Every movie has a million useless tags
And please explain to me why is branched additional information bad, and I'll really leave it be.
Plus from CSDb's view, there is a way to organize it much better than IMDb and make it truly gainful for all of us. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
there is nothing bad about additional information really - what makes those tags bad on pretty much every web 2.0 site there is is that every dumbnut can create them and use them as they feel like. yes that could be solved by a lot of moderation, maybe. i'd still rather see the existing stuff improved (and there is a long todo list already) and more importantly, see people use the existing stuff properly.
and honest, if we'd start with "moderated" tags - as in predefined ones - we'd have an instant (and eternal) flamefest on how certain tags are missing, others are stupid, and others shouldnt be used like they are used. |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Quote: there is nothing bad about additional information really - what makes those tags bad on pretty much every web 2.0 site there is is that every dumbnut can create them and use them as they feel like. yes that could be solved by a lot of moderation, maybe. i'd still rather see the existing stuff improved (and there is a long todo list already) and more importantly, see people use the existing stuff properly.
and honest, if we'd start with "moderated" tags - as in predefined ones - we'd have an instant (and eternal) flamefest on how certain tags are missing, others are stupid, and others shouldnt be used like they are used.
That'd be the case if they weren't moderated, as well. :-P
I like the idea behind tags, really, but I've never ever seen them work well in practice. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
Quote: there is nothing bad about additional information really - what makes those tags bad on pretty much every web 2.0 site there is is that every dumbnut can create them and use them as they feel like. yes that could be solved by a lot of moderation, maybe. i'd still rather see the existing stuff improved (and there is a long todo list already) and more importantly, see people use the existing stuff properly.
and honest, if we'd start with "moderated" tags - as in predefined ones - we'd have an instant (and eternal) flamefest on how certain tags are missing, others are stupid, and others shouldnt be used like they are used.
I guess the moderators are for the users, and not vice versa. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:I guess the moderators are for the users, and not vice versa.
the only reason for moderators to exist is that most people cant use the database properly. (remember, there was a time without moderators) and it's enough work to clean up the mess even now. (well it's a bit better since some weeks, but the next idiot will come soon enough, thats for sure. some of them keep trying to get in again and again and again and eventually will slip through at some point. hopefully not.)
Quote:I like the idea behind tags, really, but I've never ever seen them work well in practice.
that sums it up pretty good. i wouldnt mind seeing everything properly tagged either - but that will never work out.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
that clarifies your motivs of your "no tags" policy.
if nothing will be tagged properly, nothing will be either credited / date added / etc etc properly. if nothing will be done properly we better shut down csdb =P |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
personally i'd install different access levels for users (much more fine grained than it is now), disable everything for new users, and promote more rights to them when they prove to be sane and reliable - kindof like it worked on BBSs in the good old days. that could prevent a lot of the crap that happened. there doesnt seem to be a lobby for this though, so it wont happen. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
I like that idea. |
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