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2016-08-02 19:33
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
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MixSID - stereo SID board released

MixSID 1.0 released. See: http://henning-bekel.de/mixsid/

What do you guys think about this? Yay or poop? He charges €25 - shipping included, but you need to assemble the kit yourself.
 
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2016-08-07 11:00
Snabel

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 24
Ok, this is only an ethical opinion, but to me it does make a difference:

MixSID: All opensource, public available PCB files and everything. The project seems to be driven by enthusiasm.

SIDFX: Closed and secret. The project seems to be driven by business.
2016-08-07 14:18
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Quoting Snabel
SIDFX: Closed and secret. The project seems to be driven by business.

Oh hell no! At that price point, with those features it's pretty clear that they're being produced at cost, possibly with a tiny margin so they don't risk losing money doing it. There's no way in hell they're getting any meaningful economic compensation from that project. To claim that it isn't driven by enthusiasm is patently absurd, they've obviously spent a lot of time and effort into designing the ultimate stereo sid board.

Open source is great, but as Henning writes above to make it meaningful you have to make design compromises, such as using through hole components and simple board designs.

keyman64 is awesome btw, it'd be great to use it with the SIDFX as well.
2016-08-07 14:36
Snabel

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 24
Quote:
they've obviously spent a lot of time and effort into designing the ultimate stereo sid board.


Hmm, I bet Henning used a lot of time and effort also, but does not expect to be paid by the hour :) He did it as a hobby, most likely because of enthusiasm.

The few times i asked about the steep cost of the SIDFX, i was answered that "we used so many hours to develop". To put it in a cheeky manner, you actually pay for their education :D Personally i would see it as free experience because enthusiasm.

No matter how it is viewed, the complete cost of SIDFX is way higher than the PCB + parts + manufacturing altogether. But as i stated initially, not everyone might share my opinion.

That being said, i still preordered more than 1 SIDFX, and i will also order MixSID.. out of my own personal enthusiasm, and to have the possibility to support development of new hw options.
2016-08-07 15:12
c0zmo

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Quoting GI-Joe

But there is imho one more advantage of the MixSID: the control of the MixSID-Hardware over Henning´s Keyman64. It controls the MixSID (and other stuff like rEPROM-Kernal/Charset-switcher) completely via Keyboard-macro´s @runtime without crashes or whatever. So you can switch through all available MixSID-Modes and more by using your own personal macro-Key-config. No drilling holes in your cases for switches or other mess.

To be fair, I'd like to point out that the SIDFX will also most likely be controllable by the Keyman64. AFAIK the switches control TTL-Logic, so that should be no problem.

We made a video that showcases the Keyman64 and the MixSID, for those who are interested:
Keyman64 Keyboard Interceptor
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