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Splunkh!
Registered: Apr 2021
Posts: 31 |
Android Goattracker compatible tracker
FakeSID is a FOSS Android chiptune tracker (inspired by LFT's Blackbird). The coder is now considering rewritting the whole thing, basing it on Goattracker! One very nice aspect of this is that Goattracker's .sng-files easily can be converted to SidWizard .swm-files (With Hermit's sng2swm-tool).
According to this thread on Github, the dude mentions he would need a little bit of help with some of the 6510-assembly bits. Anybody here who perhaps would like to point him towards the right direction? In that case leave a comment and more details can be added. Have a look at this thread: https://github.com/2bt/fakesid/issues/1#issuecomment-822011536
Personally I love the idea of punching in a few melodies or beats on my phone whilst being on the bus, and then move the fragments over to the breadbox when at home :) Also the gui on the previous/earlier android installment (FakeSID) is really sweet. Screenshots/apk are available at Github link above or at Play where it has gotten some pretty great ratings: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.twobit.fakesid |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
I've tried it, looks great so far. I think it'd be good to make some space for the 'advanced' tables. By combining the project tab with the settings menu, you'd have space for a tables tab with all the expert mode / table stuff. The solution you have come up with by embedding instrument table data directly in the instruments seems useful. I guess that's where it belongs to prevent it from getting too detached. I do wonder about the instruments that are created on the fly to accommodate command tables, I think they're confusing. But I'd have to try it more to see if it'd work well when creating new tunes.
I've used FL Studio Mobile on a small Android phone and SidTracker64 on iPad, they're probably both good sources of inspiration. Especially a piano roll works surprisingly well on a small device. Maybe the data input in your GT Mobile is too tiny and a bit cumbersome, thinking about novice users. If you can find other ways to enter data values (preferably not having to remember all the commands and exact hexadecimal values), it'd be more appealing to new users that don't know GT so well. After all, the base for creating SIDs are the sequencer, patterns and the instruments. The table pointers really seem advanced features on a mobile device, which you'd rather not deal with too much when having fun on such a small screen.
Really nice to see the progress nevertheless, looking forward to the updates. |
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2bt
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 17 |
Thanks for the feedback, Hein. Yea, a Piano roll might be very useful. Fake SID had something similar. I will think about it for a bit, it could be an alternative way of adding notes.
Regarding pattern commands, I was first thinking about having an icon for each command type, but couldn't come up with something I liked. I was also worried that experienced composers would miss the hex digits. When you want to put in a command, select a cell where you want it, then click the pencil on the right which opens up a dialog.
Btw, you can mark regions of the order and pattern table by holding down on a cell for a bit and then drag. There will be different buttons on the right. You can then copy that region and paste it elsewhere. For pattern data, there are also buttons with the following functions: transpose, set overwrite instrument, delete notes, set/delete commands.
I want to also add a kind of instrument manager where you can load instrument presets. I might need some help to come up with a good set of presets though. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Quoting 2bt
Regarding pattern commands, I was first thinking about having an icon for each command type, but couldn't come up with something I liked. I was also worried that experienced composers would miss the hex digits. When you want to put in a command, select a cell where you want it, then click the pencil on the right which opens up a dialog.
Ah, right.. I tried it at work quickly, but now noticed it's usable for both novice and advanced users this way, cool. |
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acrouzet
Registered: May 2020
Posts: 97 |
I personally think that SidTracker64 has a quite elegant solution for converting tables to a visually intuitive interface, although sacrificing hex values. Also, ST64 is for iPad only and screen real estate is an issue for phone tracking.
This interface looks good so far for a phone tracker, though. Could also work quite well on desktop with a few tweaks. Reminds me of GTUltra. |
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2bt
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 17 |
I just added loading and saving instruments. Just tap the instrument tab twice. |
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2bt
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 17 |
Here is the debug APK:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B_LMvW3vUbYGw5DYRs7wx34yW9SLj_.. |
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2bt
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 17 |
I just uploaded another update. The APK can be found with the same link as above. At this point I feel like the release on the Google play store is imminent. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Quoting 2btI just uploaded another update. The APK can be found with the same link as above. At this point I feel like the release on the Google play store is imminent.
Tried installing, but I get a 'App not installed as package appears to be invalid.' message. |
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2bt
Registered: Jun 2021
Posts: 17 |
Thanks for the feedback. I mixed something up when uploading. Please try again, it is fixed now. |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Quote: Thanks for the feedback. I mixed something up when uploading. Please try again, it is fixed now.
Works now. Will try it out when I'm having X-mas holidays and I only bring my Android phone. |
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