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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
How low one can get #2
Making money by stepping on the ppls back that made demos for free, for the scene ?
http://home.ngi.de/digitalmemories/buy.html
if you charge no more than DVD and postal costs I take my words back. Otherwise..... |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
About time ppl start putting Copyright in their demos I guess then...This is just so lame, if making profit of the scene, simply fuck off.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11361 |
so - who is going to rip and upload ? |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 946 |
Good one, all those demos are available for download.. I don't understand the purpose of a DVD with demos on it anyway.
Besides, frankly I think they won't earn much with it, 10 euros isn't much, packaging is in my opinion the most expensive part of the release.
So, what if the creators get a share.. That will be like 1 cent max. per copy per person, because there are many creators involved. Why bother worrying about lost profits, or worrying about copyrights, this is a hackers scene after all. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
To be honest, I don't see the problem here. First of all, it's not like these guys will get rich off it. Sure, they could have asked for permission, on the other hand: just take it as a compliment if your work is included, and move on. I remember when my cousin told me he had bought a german 64 magazine with a demo by Cycleburner & me on its coverdisk, made my day.
And building on something Hein wrote: how many graphicians have drawn (copyrighted) pictures by famous artists? How many musicians have made covers of (copyrighted) real songs?
People in glass houses etc ..
By the way: a few years ago I bought a similair product with pc demos (in that case permission was asked though). I never ever watched it ;-) |
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Tch
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
It would have been nice if they presented it like they did down here:
http://plus4.emucamp.com/features/meet_the_family/
Atleast there you can find your way to the scene.
(and get it for free aswell..) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053 |
Quote: creamd, the dvd in question havent asked for permission in atleast one case, according to hein.
anyway, being part of a society, and then making money out of the free stuff thats done for all members of the society for free... errhm..... khmm...
its not even according to groepaz kinda illegal, its sucking blood of the scene.
I don't expect that anyone of those guys advertising those 2 DVD's at c64.sk asked permission from anyone. And I wouldn't wonder if they didn't. Copyright law isn't taught at schools.. anyway -> www.whatiscopyright.org |
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Slartibartfast
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Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 230 |
Quote: It would have been nice if they presented it like they did down here:
http://plus4.emucamp.com/features/meet_the_family/
Atleast there you can find your way to the scene.
(and get it for free aswell..)
Uh, that sure does sound kinda creepy, mister.
Aint this the scene right here? Pretty durn sure it's free, don't rightly know what point yer makin'. |
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Tch
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
Quote: Uh, that sure does sound kinda creepy, mister.
Aint this the scene right here? Pretty durn sure it's free, don't rightly know what point yer makin'.
What I ment is that there are actual links down there.
Click the Yellow `demo - group(s)´ list anywhere and you end up here at CSDb.
Unlike the DigitalMemories from post 1,which gives no related information at all.
(Is my English really that hard to understand?)
And ofcoz it´s free..
I hate copyright! |
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Slartibartfast
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 230 |
Language barrier ;) |
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
Concerning putting a Copyright into a Demo:
At most Parties it is not valid to "copyright" the Demos you release, you have to make them Freeware to release them at a Competition.
However, I think DVDs with Demos on it are really great, and there is no moneymaking or bloodsucking involved, just People who like C64Demos and DVD-Authoring.
@slarti:
No, this is not the scene. This is a Forum where some Scenefolks hang around (and some lamers..)
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