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2006-09-10 13:32
Pitcher

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 61
What Packers and Crunchers?

Hi, after recently finding out my old c64 stuff i decided to have a mess, in the older days i used to use sledgehammer and cruel cruncher, are these still the best now? and whats the best versions?, thanks, james
 
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2006-09-13 12:48
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085
dont forget the cruncher ab (predecessor of byte boiler), able to pack 115 blocks (or so) very well and very quickly w/o a reu.
2006-09-13 13:01
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
lol, well you could go watch tv, or go out or anything instead of waiting hours and hours :)
2006-09-13 13:02
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
...and then you come back and your mother tells you "oh btw your computer was still on, i have turned it off!".

ARGL
2006-09-13 13:21
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Always disconnect the power led internally! Then turn TV off and everything looks quiet and innocent. :D
2006-09-13 13:34
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
yes that's what i learned to do then aswell :)
2006-09-13 13:56
Tao

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 115
I managed to teach mom, dad, and my brothers how a cruncher screen looked like when blanked. It was so successful that I created a "fakecruncher" that I loaded and ran each time I didn't want to them to turn off the computer when coding something...
2006-09-13 13:59
Graham
Account closed

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
My C64 cruncher history:

Super Packer -> Timecruncher -> Cruelcruncher -> The Cruncher AB -> Byte Boiler

Btw, before crunching a program it's usually a good idea to use an RLE-based packer before. This will speed up decrunching (since the more complicated crunching routines have less to decrunch) and often even makes the end-result smaller because the dictionary window gets virtually bigger.
2006-09-13 17:47
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
I might be uploading a few more utilities (Not all crunchers of course), as soon as I find anything to contribute to CSDB
2006-09-13 20:45
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896
btw, whenever I have to crunch the first file of a demo, or something else, I always use PuCrunch while developing.. PuCrunch is just so much faster than Exomizer.. (Sometimes I use Exomizer when I'm 100% done).
2006-09-13 21:03
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
PUCrunch has far too slow decrunching.
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