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2006-10-19 12:48
Oswald

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History Fakers


http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126692-page,14-c,systems/arti..


c64 not even on the top 25 pcs of all time while trash like trs80 is on it.

appleII is the number one pc while pet was released earlier.


great.

thanks apple. I bloody hate you.
 
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2006-10-21 18:17
Oswald

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Bordeaux, if you're interested in commodore's history that book is THE BOOK. The writer has interviewed ppl like Chuck Peddle, Bob Yannes, Leonard Tramiel, and the list goes on and on, it is based on an extreme amount of research, and its a very good read. I have bought it on BP06, have read 1/3 of it before getting home, and I've finished the rest in one go :)
2006-10-21 18:42
T.M.R
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Bordeaux: probably the best bet is Atari Age, although the really interesting stuff seems to come out of the Polish part of the Atari scene so only gets reported in passing. www.atariage.com

i gave the Atari a few little... erm, shoves with the port of my own game Reaxion; eight colours a scanline for example... that's on the Cosine site.
2006-10-21 18:45
Graham
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@Bordeaux:

There are only few examples of "good" 3D on 8 bits. Elite and Mercenary come to mind. And games like Driller, but those are so slow that it does not matter if the CPU is twice as fast or not, the game stays slow.

When it comes to games where the A8 shows things the C64 cannot do as nice, mostly the early Lucasfilm games come to mind. Ballblazer, Rescue on Fractalus, Koronis Rift and The Eidolon are much better on the Atari XL than on C64. The 3D is more fluid because the XL has a faster CPU and hardware 2x2/4x1 pixel modes, and Koronis Rift also looks much nicer due to a Z-shading with 16 colors instead of just 4 like on C64. Oh and ofcourse pure CPU games like Mercenary are slightly more smooth on A8. Elite however does not exist for that platform...
2006-10-21 21:05
Tim
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@oswald
Ok great thanks.. sounds like a nice xmas goodie I’ll buy for myself then ;)

@tmr
Thanks for the url. Any suggestions on which emulator and which wares to check out?

@graham
Cool.. interesting.. something to check out, thanks.


2006-10-21 21:12
T.M.R
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Best emu is Atari 800Win Plus (version 4) but at the moment i'm a little out of touch for wares; Flowers Mania was pretty cool, some amazing footage (but sadly not code right now) of the ongoing Space Harrier port, i'll plug my own game Reaxion because i'm still pretty proud of what i did there and i've totally forgotten the name of the nearly complete platformer that's been previewed recently and looks very nice but it's on Atari Age! =-) Numen is probably one of the best demos going, although it needs a RAM expansion on most models of Atari (i have the emu set up as a Rambo expansion-equipped machine as default).

numen.scene.pl points to the demo and the Atari 800Win as well as explaining how to turn on the RAM expansion.
2006-10-21 22:00
Graham
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Sadly most recent demos for A8 only work with a 320 KB RAM expansion. It's the typical "small scene"-behaviour: They use weirdo extra hardware to make the small scene even smaller by excluding people with standard hardware. It was the same with the +4 scene in the 90's. I hate that.
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