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Adam The Axe
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Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 6 |
The Scene as it was.
I was in The Scene, therefore, I know what went on in the C64 scene. I see TOP GROUPS listed over there on the side display and I see DD listed #2, okay, I can buy alittle of that, Robin was a good dude, but there was only 1 number UNO in all of the C64 scene... and as much as I hate to admit, it was ESI, ONLY. Far and away, this group did more for C64 than any group, ever. Fairlight and Red Sector were a close second but not even close to Eaglesoft. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Cheers to Graham, Hein & Icon for saying what I wanted to say, but so much more eloquently ;) |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
Ok, lets get a few things straight here.
First off, the rules of releasing in USA were different , especially in the early days. The rule was, the crack must be as close to the original as possible (AFAIK). I've heard that from several older sceners, including JJ-UCF (Who was my first mentor btw).
Yes, Mitch was better. I agree there.
Ok, you just do not understand the complexity of USA protected games, so I think you better shut up about the level packing bits... most people couldn't crack it to files even.
The VERY BEST pal crackers are able to handle such things, I will say Antitrack and MrZ could do such things. That's some lofty company to keep up with.
This was fun discussions in Nostalgia at times aswell, as some group members didn't beleive me until I started supplying the ories ;)
I suggest before you start posting opinions about such stuff, you better have a background in it... no? I'm certainly not going to post about phreaking or organizing, not my role, dunno about the ins and outs of that.
Remember, also these people were isolated information wise, there wasn't fabby books, and buddies who could also crack at the same level to talk to. As any decent cracker was snatched up by any group who get them, and often times the best were scene enemies. You have to respect them for PIONEERING what they did.
Sure, they didn't level pack, there was just to many games to crack to bother waiting a day to level pack something which is 6 bloody sides to find out your level packer was bugging on file 122... 1stie scene is about SPEED. Mail scene was about High Quality. Don't confuse things.
P.S. Icon, stop pretending to be your brother, we all know about it, it just stupid. As I said before, keep your lies to the lemon lamers who will believe it. |
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icon
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 90 |
@Fungus! What are you talking about? Are you totaly insane? Stop pretending to be who? You shouting lamer at me now and then and now you are accusing me for being somebody else? Time to do some explonation and not just let your big mouth run....or not to hijack this thread send me a PM or start another thread! Jesus! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
I agree with Fungus regarding 'background' on subject-matter.
I also agree that it is simply apples and oranges here.
In my view there is no top group, as this is just a matter of personal opinion.
We all acknowledge ESI, we all acknowledge CREST, that's all there is to it. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2969 |
Yes, there are also no top crackers, top coders etc. pp. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
offtopic, but I never understood the horribly slow loaders in cracks, I hated the crackers for not being able add a fastloader... :) |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
Oswald: that's cause they had dolphindos/rapidos :)
Icon: you are Icon/REM right?
hehe
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
heh, I wasnt even aware of cracker / fastloader carts until like 95-96 (!) :D |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787 |
Quote: heh, I wasnt even aware of cracker / fastloader carts until like 95-96 (!) :D
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Fast loader carts were all the rage from ~86-ish.
Cracker carts started appearing around the same time...
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
tlr, small town in the communist block, no papermags, no computer stores, etc. I only knew what my friends knew. I only had the games my friends had, etc. |
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