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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787 |
VICEplus v1.0 released!
The VICEplus team is proud to announce the release of VICEplus v1.0!
(based on VICE 1.22)
VICEplus is the Versatile Commodore Emulator Plus. Its most important
extension over VICE is support for the C64DTV as well as a few general
bug fixes and improvements.
Binaries available for:
* Win32 (Windows 9x/ME/NT4/2K/XP/2K3/Vista)
* MacOSX
* MSDOS
* BeOS
* QNX
* Solaris
* Minix
* Amiga based and derived systems
More information and downloads:
http://viceplus.sourceforge.net/
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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there are dozens :) |
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Jayce
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if you say so.. :)
I only know i searched for them a few years back and i could find just a small hand full and QT being the most completed one available in a GPL or other open licence.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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it depends on what you mean by "complete" ... something like vice doesnt really need a huge set of feature-rich widgets, event modell or whatever. |
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A Life in Hell
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Quote: I only know one, QT4. But is that native? I tought it still uses X11 for presentation logic.
QT on Mac OS X from v2 onwards has native presentation (with the caveat that it doens't follow the HIG very well,...) |
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A Life in Hell
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Quote: it depends on what you mean by "complete" ... something like vice doesnt really need a huge set of feature-rich widgets, event modell or whatever.
It does need an elephant, though |
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Jayce
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Quote: it depends on what you mean by "complete" ... something like vice doesnt really need a huge set of feature-rich widgets, event modell or whatever.
True, i guess only canvas support will do just fine. That is, if vice uses a canvas for presentation of the screen.
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Shadow
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http://viceplus.wiki.sourceforge.net/Tracking states that the FRED mode in the DTV emulation is broken. Does it apply to both FRED1 and FRED2? Also the part in Uncharted Territory where I run in FRED1 seems to work fine, so I'm not quite sure how this problem looks?
I'm asking because I was thinking of fooling around with some effects in FRED-mode, but I'm just too damn lazy to sit and transfer to my DTV all the time, so it would be nice to be able to do it in Vice+... |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
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Quote: http://viceplus.wiki.sourceforge.net/Tracking states that the FRED mode in the DTV emulation is broken. Does it apply to both FRED1 and FRED2? Also the part in Uncharted Territory where I run in FRED1 seems to work fine, so I'm not quite sure how this problem looks?
I'm asking because I was thinking of fooling around with some effects in FRED-mode, but I'm just too damn lazy to sit and transfer to my DTV all the time, so it would be nice to be able to do it in Vice+...
That line was added an by anonymous edit. It might be a bug, but we don't know what it refers to.
The proper way to report bugs is via mail or irc. |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787 |
About VICE vs. VICEplus:
We respect VICE team's decision of not including DTV support.
Their aim is to provide a portable emulator of classic Commodore hardware.
VICEplus is intended to be VICE "plus" additional features that may or
may not end up in VICE. It is based upon the latest release of VICE
allowing easy backporting of features if desired.
Join us on IRC or mail us if you like to contribute or discuss new features.
http://viceplus.sourceforge.net/
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The Dark Prince
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Quote: Actually I find their "explanation" quite valid.
Furthermore: "they" "should" concentrate rather on bugs than implementing a yet buggy new huge feature (as DTV).
Also: VICE-only demos suck already as it is. So DTV will become a plattform noone ever coded ON?
To each his/her own...
Also as already mentioned: its GPL so no whining has justification (or is this the big gap some bamus left here?) IMHO.
I still feel like people complaining the most are doing the least (this includes me right now complaining about complaining)
Hrm, concentrating on fixing bugs until they're all gone before implementing new things you say? You do realise the problems with such a statement right?
Enough people wanted this that they submitted code and had it rejected. Enough people wanted this that people bothered to fork and make their own (which takes a lot of effort so well done to those concerned.)
VICE only demos I've not seen too many of, but having something you can test code on quickly massively improves turnaround on intermediate versions of things and that makes development a lot more palatable. You're always going to get some bad with good.
Also, DTV suffers from a real catch 22 problem right now. It's not hugely worth getting a DTV because there isn't much for it (and it's a pain getting the hardware to talk to the outside world, but that's another argument). And it's not hugely worth coding for the DTV because nobody has one to really look at your demo/game/porn on.
Having an emulator will break very likely break this catch, like I said, makes it easier to develop for the real hardware but it also makes for a bigger audience and as we're all attention whores, (audience) size matters.
As for new features, does anyone else really REALLY want symbol table support of some sort for the monitor? |
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