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2012-03-03 17:18
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
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What is a "crack"?

In the release On the Farm III +8FD there started a discussion about what is a "crack". In CSDb rules a crack is defined as an unauthorized modification. In other scenes this would be called a "hack" or a "mod".

I hardly remember any games since 1994 which really needed to remove a protection, so most "crackers" started to use different clauses to declare their work, e.g. "raped" or something like this. But there also should be made a difference between linking an intro or training a game and other improvements like highscore-savers, bugfixes, improved packing and loading routines, etc. Crack might not be the correct name for it but what else to call it?

 
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2012-03-05 14:48
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2160
brilliant idea, the prollcoders not to forget!

And how about 6581 and 8580 musicians, SFX musicians, music musicians, club mix musicians...

scnr

edit: FFFFUUUU!
2012-03-05 15:03
Achim
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Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 28
@skate: That's an interesting question. Afaik cracking is hardly documented anyway. On codebase there're a few docs (haven't read them yet), of course. But some oldschool crackers should really add some custom articles.

2012-03-05 18:54
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2556
Agree with Jailbird. There *is* actually the category "Logo graphician", so we could even get rid of 2 categories at the same time. Swapper + Mega-Swapper? Organizer + Co-Organizer? Also not really needed.
2012-03-05 18:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293
i like where this is going.... =)
2012-03-05 19:10
Achim
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here's another pointless release category: fake game, 15 releases (out of 100.000).
2012-03-05 19:20
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 482
I agree that category fake-game is kinda useless. There might be good games or bad games, but can someone explain what a fake game should be? As long as it is playable, it is a game. Unfinished ones are previews.

2012-03-05 19:32
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293
i'd like to ask the same regarding "fake groups". what is that really?
2012-03-05 19:52
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2160
Hmh weren't fake groups either lamer labels or (mostly) some coward labels just to be very explicit in scene wars without really being blamed? Nevertheless, it was often not hard to guess who this fake group really was. Imho the info fake group/lamer label of 1337-group xyz in the Trivia would do, no category needed. Same is true 4 fake demos. Trivia "Made with DemoMaker blablablub" should do. Fake Game??? What's this supposed to be? Ace just wanna have fun?
2012-03-05 19:54
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3177
fake game recently discussed, marked now as fake game, previously was marked as crack.
http://csdb.dk/forums/?roomid=12&topicid=90008&firstpostd=90015..
There are many others around, also fake tools. Hence the category is needed even if not so often, luckily.
2012-03-05 20:00
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293
ian has one of there rare cases there were it actually makes sense :)

most of the times however, people mix up "fake" with "intentionally bad".
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