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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
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single-channel echo (who was first?)
So, the NESers claim FIRST on single-channel echo (1988):
http://nesdev.parodius.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=5397
Was this made earlier on the C64?
On the Amiga I'm guessing there was plenty, anyone has any examples?
The war goes on...
:)
In the NESdev thread Neil Baldwin posts a link to his single-channel-echo-feature in his NES-editor. Pretty sweet: http://dutycyclegenerator.com/sound/echo.mp3
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GT
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Quote: Sorry for expanding your knowledge outside that...
Been working in the music retail business for over 15 years. LOL !
Still, there's effects nobody has done on the C-64, for your information. Can't wait to show you. :) |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
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Quote: Been working in the music retail business for over 15 years. LOL !
Still, there's effects nobody has done on the C-64, for your information. Can't wait to show you. :)
:)
What about coding the "real-time female delay" in the next SDI version? :) |
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GT
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Quote: :)
What about coding the "real-time female delay" in the next SDI version? :)
LOL !! Well, I won't say anything, but you're almost right. IT IS my new BITCH. ;) |
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goto80
Registered: Jan 2002
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@Jan Harries: You mean Hård's song Supercan @ 02.20? It's an echo indeed! It's a shame that the time of the echo is only 1 step, and not 3 (like I tried to show above). So yes, you've proven your skills, but only to 72%.
@Jeff: thanks for clarifying! Regarding (5), back when I was using JCH I remember using a rather lazy method to make long echos. I used the same method, but also set transpose-values and basically played a very slow arpeggio with a long release. Like in my song Ajvar Relish. Good trick for lazy moments and reggae feelings! |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
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Quote: LOL !! Well, I won't say anything, but you're almost right. IT IS my new BITCH. ;)
Can't wait to test ride that ;D |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Inspired from the Rondo Veneziano thread, this tune clearly has one channel echoes and is from 1987: Hysteria
Claim busted, as ridiculous as it was in the first place.
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GT
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No tunes on the C-64 has one channel echo. ;-) |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
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The track "EfnCold" i upped here uses a similar echo-type-note-effect in one of the melodys (its the same shit that octamed/protracker mods used for echos). It's not that effective but sounds ok to me.. |
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Bregalad
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Quote:Goto80: Well, with such a limited crap sound chip as found in NES, I understand why they'd attempt anything to increase penis length from 1my to 2my :-)
My it's really not much more limited than the 64, it has one more sound channel and individual voice volume control, as opposed to a filter, saw wave suppot, and (much much) more duty cycles available for square wave.
Quote:No tunes on the C-64 has one channel echo. ;-)
The C64 has only a global volume control and ADSR. Which is really bothersome for the single voice echo, the only way it'd work is abusing the gate bit a lot in weird ways (it's very probable did it once, but probably not before the end of C64's lifespan), but it were never the standard for the C64, while the NES has always be able to pull of any funky volume enveloppes.
So about who was first on the NES it's probably Contra, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone did it on another system equipped with the AY-3-8910 like the MSX before. |
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SIDWAVE
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Quote: No tunes on the C-64 has one channel echo. ;-)
No, only on the notes, not the whole channel.
But Geir.... your reverb routine, isnt that echo on whole channel ? :D |
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