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2015-12-19 15:14
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686
Dear Staff

Hey, stop being nazi's hmmkay? Scene has never been censored, so don't start now. You can shove political correctness up your proverbial assholes. It does not belong and never will belong in the scene or any forum related to it. You want censorship take your asses over to LEMON.

Sincerely,

Fungus (Certified Asshole)
 
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2015-12-19 20:52
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686
CreamD: "Asshole" is what other people coined me, since I am not offended by it, I picked it up and ran with it.

I speak my mind, pure and simple. It is not "whining" as you put it. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word, you can however consult any dictionary you like.

I don't appreciate censorship, I am not a comment troll either. Comments getting removed without so much as even an explanation for no reason other than SOMEONE didn't like it. Again, it's bullshit.

You don't understand the cracking scene or rules, we know, we see that, in fact you plainly don't want to understand and do not care. Fine, then step away from dealing with it. But maybe you can be made to understand, how about a basic "demo" that someone has typed in from a magazine and uploaded. Or perhaps someone rants of bullshit in a scrolltext done with some readily available demo maker. Are these a scene demo to you? Of course not, and that is exactly how such crap releases are viewed by the cracking scene. The rules for releases are well goddamn established over the years and are known by ANY cracker. Ignoring them means the release made is either just for fun (not scene) , a fake release (borderline troll) or a troll release to which you also have rules and also aren't officially scene releases. They are not and never were covered in charts for points, and uploading them could get you banned on some boards for uploading crap for download credits. Suffice to say your ignorance, or any staff members ignorance of how the cracking scene works is NO excuse.

If you like it or not, CSDB is part of the scene, declaring your separation from it is total nonsense. If you want to purely be a database, remove all comments and sub forums that don't relate explicitly to information correction about a given release and act like an actual database. If you can't do that then relax the rules and accept it is a place where sceners and non-sceners come to discuss everything and express their opinions and thoughts, GOOD OR BAD.

/End Rant
2015-12-19 20:58
Beastifire
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2013
Posts: 40
Tl;dr The cracking scene is dysfunctional and needs group theraphy, just like in 1987 or 1993.
2015-12-19 21:03
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
<Post edited by CreaMD on 19/12-2015 22:04>

Fungus, I'm pro-moderation. Because I think discussions and comments are for exchange of ideas and opinions on themes and topics, not for insulting and trashing each other. So if you express your opinion in civilized non-assholish way (sic) , I totally for keeping it in the comments or forums.

But also, I accept the need for part of the scene having it's part kept the way they consider it serious. And therefore I think, a maintainer who is able to keep it that way, is needed.
It's actually needed much more than in demoscene part of the CSDB, because there it seems to grew into "everything-goes" attitude, which can't be reverted so easily without causing controversy. For every removed crap release there would be some hero "voice" defending it. I'm pretty sure. This part of "keepin the true spirit of scene" is imo doomed for eternity. Cracking scene is smaller, so it still has chance, it needs strong hand though.
2015-12-19 21:03
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686
That's besides the point, also some demo sceners we all know are bat shit crazy.
2015-12-19 21:05
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686
I am only pro moderation if it is to stop illegal activity or obvious trolling. Otherwise it's just not your call to make.
2015-12-19 21:17
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 520
hey mighty Sgnufus, nice to see ya back for the 74629th time :)
my own personal opinion about all this: *any* comment about *any*thing on *any* forum that gets removed by *any*one for *any* reason is plain lame. we are killing our freedom by ourselves, fuck that.
2015-12-19 21:23
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Fungus, I didn't remove your post, but you should understand that if an otherwise perfectly reasonable post contains 4-letter word it might get removed and that It's not an invitation for even more insulting rewrite (also not censored by me). I think it wouldn't hurt the overall message or your image, if you used different words second time.
2015-12-19 21:54
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11385
perhaps after "demo mode" we need "pussy mode" as well then.
2015-12-19 21:59
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Gropeaz's sarcastic commment. ✓
2015-12-19 22:06
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11385
"Ein Zyniker ist ein Schuft, dessen mangelhafte Wahrnehmung Dinge sieht wie sie sind, statt wie sie sein sollten."
<Ambrose Bierce>

edit: translation/original: "Cynic, n: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be."
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