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swasti
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 120 |
THE MOVERS Treasure Chest II
hello dudes,
fresh from my red hot glowing 1541-ii disk drive - another transferpack (finished some minutes ago..). i got the disks from a friend with his c64.
246 transfered disk sides in the pack.
that was a bloody work - some (bad) hd disks and pc disks where in the box. some of them makes my drive crazy.
HOT!!
if you have self transfered disk - please post them! ;)
regards
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maestro
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 727 |
could all the packs not be stored here on csdb??? |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
No and No.
TDD has size constraints for what we need for "collections" (as far as I recall when speaking with Burglar). CSDb has seperate entries; although it would be nice to have a collections-section here? Maybe one of the admins can investigate this possibility and what is needed?
The space/site would need to be the type that lasts, not a site that disappears after a year or two (otherwise what's the point). Something stable and dedicated.
I'm surprised no one has created it yet, considering preservation is one of the most important parts of the C64 scene in the last few years (and 'collecting' has always been valued).
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Distributed storage shouldn't be too hard, we would need a central website to link to the collections.
I'm not sure about having collections in CSDb.
Fear the endless discussions about that...
Like, what credits?
We would need to add 'transfered by' and stuff like that.
And the release date?
Still we would need storage space (although I think the distributed way it is done now, isn't too bad).
Nah... not on CSDb. |
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LOGAN
Account closed
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 71 |
Putting collections on file sharing systems is a bad idea as these links expire faster than the c64 software it contains. Also distributed servers might over time degrade because of people stopping hosting etc. Distributed servers plus several mirrors is already better. Another option could be peer-to-peer (with a big number of people keep them seeded 'forever') but peer-to-peer seeds also degrade over time. (Drives filling up, etc.)
Also a standard way of an index file for the collections, maybe even some way to search for specific file names is something I would like.
Also the naming should be a bit more consistent. some collections have just the name disks1.zip making it almost impossible to see the origin. Some have the source's name added.
Sometimes the same collection turns up under another filename or other archive format (or splitted in several files) making it seem like a different collection.
Seems to me its quite an undertaking to preserve these collections but worth a try.
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3195 |
Don't get me wrong but I actually delete the whole pack once the disks has been sorted. 95% of the cracks are already on CSDb or C64heaven archive at SH, the newly found cracks are ALL added, Mason can confirm.
Would be nice to know if the newly found mags and demos are being added aswell here, mags site and/or TDD, then the collections can be deleted safely. |
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LOGAN
Account closed
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 71 |
I'm just keeping unmodified packs, don't get me wrong but I don't fancy downloading individual releases. That way it'll take forever. Also it's a bit like old school swapping getting surprises on disk :)
And there's always stuff that falls out of each category.
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ΛΛdZ
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 153 |
A Collection(pack) contains a value as a whole if it is
made from floppies/tapes. Info on how disks/releases were
spread etc and how many disks users had.
Further as a lot of releases on CSDB, TDD etc. are not
very well checked it happends that some files are
missing/bad... which first is indetifed later.
(think of that level 9 is broken in some game,
or maybe just some bad gfx in some level/item)
To my knowledge NO c64-preservation sites DO
preserve/consider data in a way so it satisfies
the basic requirements that is identified by the
task force on archival digital information that
made a list of stuff to be considered when digital
libraries(archives) are build.... so without
the original collections nobody can build a
better digital library becos we deleted
the information that is required.
If all collections are deleted just because all the
release ARE on some site it does not mean that they
works 100% (or are 100% authentic).
So if you have transfered you own disks/tapes please
upload them here - they may contain information or
releases (part of maybe) that IS missing and CAN
be used to build a better digital library.
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elkmoose
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 45 |
maybe http://www.untergrund.net/index.php?act=about ? |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Yeah, Untergrund.net... that's a marvelous idea.
However... do they accept those collections?
Because it's not 100% pure demo related. |
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swasti
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 120 |
here is the charly2 pack. lots of geos and magazine disks crap.
charly2
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