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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Cracker Charts
I'm starting to get really confused now. Some diskmags, such as Vandalism news, do cracker charts with no points to any fake groups (Lamer Labels) however, Arachnophobia puts fake groups as well as proper groups on to the cracker charts. I don't think lamer labels should be added to the cracker charts, the lamer labels should represent the cracker groups, and they should get points. I think it is very silly the way Arachnophobia does the charts, and that it is right what Onslaught said in Vandalism news, regarding the charts. |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
and for those which are a bit 'slow':
when adding the release to my homepage I have looked through the memory of the file! |
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Commander
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 106 |
Quote: and for those which are a bit 'slow':
when adding the release to my homepage I have looked through the memory of the file!
Rough, you are right! This was a very bad release!!! I admid that (while many others don't dare to do this... or spread lies...). But look at this : some people got their chance now to put Role in a bad light now (especially Mermaid and Celtic, because this forum had another purpose than lighting up the Role release), does this mean that Role is such a bad group? Already some guys suddenly put a vote to the group Role. Well, it is all childisch!!! But like some people don't like to be called ELITE, they keep on doing their thing like in the past : annoying people!
Rough, you are right (for the second time), that's why I will probably try Role to stop releasing games. My apologies to Mermaid (who didn't dare to say what was really on her mind : she didn't like her game to be released by another group). And for those people who like to be childisch by suddenly giving Role a vote in this database, keep on doing your own ELITE-kind stuff (that's the thing which has destroyed the scene almost in the past, and I can know it, I have been there all the time).
Rough, thanks for being neutral and trying to be honest.
And for those guys who don't like Role or maybe me personaly, please be honest and tell it to me! Don't punisch the whole group because of... You know what I mean... It's strange that the old ELITE still get their hands on these databases and so... They don't earn to rule nowadays. The guys who really keep this c64 scene alive, earn to be honoured!
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Celtic
Administrator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
To be straight. i have nothing against role or you personally, you have been a good contact back in the day. I was just pointing out my opinion... Jesus Christ man, get all offended by it. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
Yes yes, thats where the problem is always is... Elite vs Lame... whatever...If you get offended, then you should be. I dont have a problem with you, or Role, thats just my opinion on it.
Why release something that is freeware on the net and FILECOPYABLE... this is what makes something crackable or not, can you copy it with a filecopyer. If you cant, then its not cracked right, or should not be IMHO.
Now, that doesnt go for ingame protections and you can go ahead and FIX something. or shortening or whatever applies.
Everything the last years has ben RELEASES, not much cracking involved, and not a T/S loader is really some protection... At least some people make thier games hard to depack and run.
I think release charts would be more applicable to the current SCENE, and using the cracking charts for the oldies.
/Fungus |
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White Flame
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 136 |
Yeah, there's nothing new to crack. Any "Release Chart" should be for people creating new productions/games/etc, or digging up & repackaging lost wares of the past that can't currently be downloaded. Like I said above, if something's already released to the 'net, how can you "release" it afterwards? |
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Cupid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 83 |
Hoth: Evolution also means ditching things that don't make sense anymore, hence we don't have tails (ok, agreed, with a tail you could type AND move the mouse at the same time but that's just an idea).
There is also a think called emancipation and liberation, throwing away old ideas and thinking of new ones. |
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Warbaby
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 60 |
Cupid:
So if something doesn't make sence anymore we should just ditch it? I always thought that the scene was about fun!
Maybe you take things too seriously... |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Cmr: Nice see to you now have understood my point of view. Like I already pointed out above, there is no problem for me that Role is releasing a 2 blocks game.
To me the sense of fake labels was always fun and not to release lame games which would spoil my "real" cracking group's reputation. As if the cracker would be responsible for the quality of the game!!!!, I, as a cracker, am responsible for the crack quality, nothing else.
And, please, dont say some idiot now that it's not really cracking to release these games. Everybody knows it. |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
hm, I dont know Cupid personally, but to me he looks as someone who doesnt take this too serious at all. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
How can anyone take any of it serious? It's funny as all hell. :)))
Also, for people who take "along time" whats with looking through memory? You think someone is recracking? or what?
As for calling new stuff "cracked" , how can you call a 2 blocks compo games trained and bloated 45 blocks a crack?
And these self coded games? These are legitimate cracks too?
Get real...
If some games is PD, has NO protection at all, no more than depacking and shortening/training, than this is NOT a crack!
Its a RELEASE. Ther eis no points for these games IMHO! Like points count in this day and age anyways... its about the quality again, speed dont count! and thats my opinion!
/Fungus
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