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2010-02-10 12:56
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
Release id #88112 : Heil Hitler

This release kicks off a needed discussion about introducing any 'sensitive' (in many meanings of that word) material to this database.

Once again, there should be some rules about such things. Example - besides the above release - is stuff that is offensive to some sceners, done by other sceners in bad taste and certainly not good intentions... I also have some things like this in my collection, but uptil now decided not to share it.

Can we maybe appoint some general approach to this??
 
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2010-02-11 09:18
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
As for the wider scope of this discussion: Of course there can be some material that shouldn't be added to CSDb even if it has been "released", for example stuff that could really hurt and/or put currently existing people in danger. If someone were to create a CSDb release titled "<scener's real name> is a paedophile" it should for example be removed immediately, for obvious reasons, no matter if it was "released" or not.
2010-02-11 09:54
Shadow
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 355
I don't think we should put too much weight on the political aspects of these old demos.
I mean, I used a graphics of the Soviet "Hammer and sickle" symbol in Time Out and it sure as hell wasn't any political statement, I was (and still am) as far as you can possible get from a communist. It was just a thing that Triad used, so I used it too.

2010-02-11 10:03
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
"The google-hits on keywords is an issue though."
please try typing "hitler" into the searchbar here. no, i dont see how these 3 hits are an issue at all. i get more hits than that at wikipedia when searching for the same thing :)

radiantx: that kind of stuff is more or less hypothetical though, and certainly doesnt apply to stuff from 20 years ago :) (to bad it doesnt apply to stuff that hurt my eyes and/or ears either)
2010-02-11 11:02
Ventura
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Posts: 67
"google-hits", "server-locations", hypothetical maybe's... nonsense!.
Stop pissing around the pot and do something constructive.
2010-02-11 13:08
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928
Oh boy, don't let the politicos get control here. After these words are censored then we'll move on to other words/phrases. In about a year, the name of the website will need to be changed to "Such-and-suchs political C64 View".

I think one of the reasons the scene exists is to get away from the "real world" and it seems some people think we should drag it into CSDb. Fuck no, make your own website and then add your own "PC rules".
2010-02-11 13:46
assiduous
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Posts: 343
Quote:
for example stuff that could really hurt and/or put currently existing people in danger

yes lets delete all cracks!
2010-02-11 14:22
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
There are online database that have a lot of information and don't hold downloads (Gamebase64 is an example).
Nice, but websites like CSDb have more value.
2010-02-11 22:16
Ventura
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Registered: Jan 2006
Posts: 67
I have a problem with "getting away from the real word".
Sorry!, when i entered the scene, it was about keeping the scene spirit alive,
*not* getting away from the real world, that frightens me, it was the exact opposite.
Contemplate on this.
2010-02-11 22:48
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Why? Someone posing as a WWE member send me a disk late '89, i liked the original intro.
But this one had swastica's and even more after pressing the spacebar.
I decided not to spread it, end of discussion.


I think back then they were still called WWF. Don't remember them having a nazi wrestler though.
2010-02-11 22:52
Ventura
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Registered: Jan 2006
Posts: 67
Well, it had that world wide expressive logo.
Let's leave it at that, it wasn't the WWE i knew, i liked Maps gfx back in 88, not to mention the rest.
I didn't figure WWE wouldn't have had a nazi-wrestler at all, that was the point.
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