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smila
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c64 video's
if anyones interested ive made 4 video's to c64 tunes.
they are a fairly large file tho.
just send me a pm and i'll give ya the url and passwords to download them.
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Amen. |
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smila
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hooray to that!!
i'd like to ask a question now.
i there a lot a peeps here who did commertial stuff for the c64 in the 80's?
i knew a lot of people back then and was wondering if any of them post here .
and if iam still posting in the wrong place...fuck it all hehe. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051 |
[the real slagging starts]
First of all I would like to define that as far as "C64 related support of C64" is concerned it is not support of a living system, it's a support of a good memories.. old recollections. It's not the same as videos from current parties, videos based on current C64 products and remixes of current hits.
Or do you want to say that what I say isn't correct Smila?
Don't you who make PC productions feel like they have cut the "umbilical cord" connecting you with the old unsupported system. Don't you feel like you moved forward in your skill and value? Don't you feel so-to-speak ashamed of playing with old system? Don't you consider current C64 sceners foolish fanatics who are frozen in past - unable to distinguish that what they produce in C64 scene is not worth their valuable time ;-) Why they still keep playing with that old system? Why they don't start to work on PC, Amiga, in Bitmap editors, game development systems, 3D rendering programs, whatever.. why don't they celebrate their affection towards C64 more strogly. Why they don't say it more loud. Why do they still use those pathetic 3 channels, 16 colors and 64kb of ram.. oh my god. What would your girlfriend say if she knew ;-) And what about friends.. "whaat? You are still working with C64? You suck ;-)"
Yeah yeah, they are right. Let's everybody join the retro scene. Let's make C64 compos allowing c64 related PC demos and c64 related PC videos. Let's make C64 music compos allow 16 channel musics made in tweaked Resid engine allowing 2x8 channel stereo sound. And hey how about if we made VICE a standard compo machine. And hey why should we take C64 to parties, when we can take PC and run our stuff on emulators. Yeah! Long live the C64 scene... (I'm going to vomit now, if you don't mind)
... okay I feel much better now.. let's continue ;-)
...well... we are too old for acting like pathetic enthusiasts.. some of us are employed, some have families, loves... how can we connect our hobby with our real life... and why? Why do we sceners rant about all that when we also feel problem of finding some free time for only real cool hobby we have... and is that hobby really so cool? why? Why do we consider it so attractive...
I don't know how about you.. but I thank to C64 and its scene for what I've learned. C64 was starting point of my creativity. It was the reason I've learned english. It was the reason I started to learn programming. And after all, it is still the machine where I get a lot of inspiration for my life. I always considered C64 sceners to be the most interesting and most succesful people in the world. Yeah it sounds a little bit naive, but, let us not count success only in ammount of general popularity one gets ;-) Many former C64 sceners now run small bussinesses, work on interesting posts in IT areas and some of them stopped to waste their time witch computers at all (which is very positive too ;-).
Maybe you ask, why I'm so negative against all that C64 related PC art? There is very simple explanation for that. As there is enough real C64 stuff to watch, created by real c64 scener. I won't ever dream of needing to watch something created by someone who even doesn't know what's going on in the C64 scene. I will check video, webpage, mp3 made by any C64 scener, but I don't feel any urge to do so in case of someone who doensn't recognise who are those people in the ranks on the right blue part of this page. And that's only top fives. Call that loyality, call that solidarity, whatever. I know that it's not just that. It's mostly the respect I have towards sceners. They gained it by making great C64 art, they gained it by supporting scene in other aspects. They gained it by living in the presents C64 scene.
If you want to get my respect don't talk about past. Start to live in present scene. Clean dust of your C64 and start to create some interesting stuff again.
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smila
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i get your point, if you feel that strongly so be it.
the c64 was a huge part of my youth and thats why i love it so much.
its where i started to learn, its where i did my first art which has carried me through to this day still working in the games industry.
you may feel what you do is more important to the c64 than what others do and a lot of people will agree with you, and a lot of people wont.
anyway i dont want to continue this argument.
its obvious people here take what they do very close to their hart. and thats fine by me.
iam glad i posted tho, ive learned something new.
no hard feelings to anyone.
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: i get your point, if you feel that strongly so be it.
the c64 was a huge part of my youth and thats why i love it so much.
its where i started to learn, its where i did my first art which has carried me through to this day still working in the games industry.
you may feel what you do is more important to the c64 than what others do and a lot of people will agree with you, and a lot of people wont.
anyway i dont want to continue this argument.
its obvious people here take what they do very close to their hart. and thats fine by me.
iam glad i posted tho, ive learned something new.
no hard feelings to anyone.
You unfortunatelly try to end the discussion by misinterpreting what I said. No it's not about myself feeling that what I do is more important than what you do. It's about what I say about your c64 related productions.
I say that they aren't important for C64 users as they are not runable on C64 or related to current C64 activities. Simply what you thing you do for C64 scene is not important. You aren't helping to save the C64 spirit or shifting it further. All you do is just creating derivative multi media art inspired by old Commodore 64 art. I don't care about quantity of people who will agree od disagree with me. The decision is on them. More important for me is that how many people will understand the point of what Lasse, or me or even Deev at Lemon64 forum wanted to say. |
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smila
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i understand that they arnt runable on c64 and that some users might not be interested.
but i honestly thought some of you may like to see them.
sorry for the slanging match, just got me annoyed thats all. |
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Commander
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And of course there are people (like me) who like to see them! Thanks for mentioning about your videos, not only today is important but also the past (otherwise we can better scratch the whole database if the past doesn't count); even if it is not runnable on a real c64. Memories are also a nice feeling, not as important as the things made today but it still gives a nice feeling to look back.
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smila
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cheers.
its a shame we got off on the wrong foot, but you learn from your mistakes. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: i understand that they arnt runable on c64 and that some users might not be interested.
but i honestly thought some of you may like to see them.
sorry for the slanging match, just got me annoyed thats all.
Yes I think there are some people, even here, who will be interested in your videos. Good luck with your future non-c64 creations. And believe it or not, I still hope that you will get back to draw something for C64. |
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smila
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after seeing how much passion you lot have about your creations maybe i will.
are there any perticular art packages you guys use to do your gfx.? it may be a silly question but its been sooooo long since i did any c64 stuff it'll be like going back to school. ;-) |
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