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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
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My suggestion for adding intros
Okay, I've made up the following concept.
When someone adds a new release and he chooses C64 Crack there should be an extra
menu/prompt popping up at the edit screen
saying..
SEARCH INTRO (style like searching for a person)
you can check if it is the proper intro, if YES and the credits of the used intro are accurate to the ones in the database you just click it to have a link from the crack to the intro and vice versa
if the intro wasnt in the database yet or uses a char, music etc. which isnt credited yet on its intro page
you may edit following:
Name: (as mostly intros names are unknown I'd say we either call them like GROUPNAME INTRO or GROUPNAME INTRO 01, 02 etc....
Aka: e.g. if an intro has a special name which doesnt indicate its originating group this is the place to write GROUPNAME INTRO
Released at: not sure if this shall be implented, but some cracks were released at parties, if that info is important for the intro..
Release date: should name the date of the crack this intro got released first
Pouet ID: does Pouet take intros? if yes, this option aswell
Upload Screenshot from this Intro (I personally prefer a screenshot from the very first use)
Released by groups and sceners: at the entries of the intros I already uploaded I did not add this cos they are no official releases, nevertheless it could be interesting when intros were done by someone else than its group e.g. several 711 intros (Tera, Light..) still this should be usually be part of the credits when they would be 100% accurate, meaning having exact joining/leaving dates but this is an utopian wish. 8)
Credits:
Coding, Graphics, Charset, Music, PAL/NTSC fix, Text (anything else?)
now it gets tricky!
It should be possible to alter the release date for each entered credit, e.g. in the Hotline Intro with the different appearances (mostly used by C&C Hotline Intro 28) they first used JCH's X-Ray and later Edwin's Groove is in the Heart, having 'Groove is in the Heart' credited on the same day as the first use of the intro would be stupid, it's probably havent been composed on that day yet.
Difficulties occuring: If the newer music is by the same guy as the earlier one...
Shall every intro use be credited? I say no, this would follow to enormous lists e.g. on Woodo/Fairlight or David M. Hanlon being credited a 100 times for one intro, first use is enough.
Events which this releae contains information about (hm, part of the intro or of the crack....)
SIDs ûsed in this release
obviously the release date of each used SID should be changeable manually too! Release dates for SIDs are used on their particular page which lists all the releases they were used inside at the bottom of the page, not using individual release credit date would mess up the correct chronological order of the list
Cracks this intro was used for:
shall be able to merge with the proper crack, in the usual mode (searching, new crack blabla)
Download Links:
Several options
a) none
b) all the cracks this been used for, is interesting and quicker to download than going to all the pages this intro was used on, often used intros like Fairlight's Woodo could be bundled up in a .RAR archive (someone's gotta take care of that, cos they need to be updated... me?!)
c) the ripped intro like on Zyron's site, I personally dislike this option, but it seems to be liked by many sceners, besides it could also be linked to the proper page on intros.c64.org
Upload file (concludes from b+c above)
Reason for not adding a download link (dito)
Shall the intro credit pop in a sceners profile? Yes, but only once, at first use
Shall the intro credit pop in a groups profile? Not sure about that, it was never released like a demo/crack, still could be interesting in that case when e.g. Tera did an intro for 711..
Furthermore I strongly support an original/ripped use of e.g. char, music checker! Both for release and sceners/groups, in the later the ripped credits could be set up in an own list below the original credits list
- suggestions, improvements, criticism, insisting on wrong conclusions in my argumentation, contradictions? let me know
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Mason
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461 |
You are right Groepaz. We got a big job in the tap community to make sure where the taps came from as there was different distributions.
Even some distributions had different loaders
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Rough
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When just the loader is different but the main file the same it will be impossible to judge which source the crack comes from anyhow, except if the cracker kept loader traces in the mem.
Anyway, this is offtopic, so I did PM'.
topic: I still dont like when intros are added which used several tunes over the years that all tunes have the same date. Something should be done about that like suggested in the first post. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
imho when an intro used a different tune (charset, logo, whatever) it should get another entry.
but what do i know about database integrity =P |
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Rough
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in my opinion only when there is advanced code which makes it a v1.0, v1.1, v1.2
just loading a new music to $1000 or a new font to $2000 doesn't make a new intro |
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wreg
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Registered: Mar 2004
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apart from that you will probably never be able to tell which version that 'tro is, it would make sense to have a general intro-skeleton, from which all the different music and so on derives
it would probably be easier to just add another entry (do we have a 'copy-this-entry'-button yet, perff?)
and then change the music whatsoever
in that case, i dont like the idea of what will show up in the credits of the coder for example, lots of credits cause he coded the 'tro, even though the code was only done once and the 'tro is pretty the same from the coding point of view |
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TNT
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Quote: in my opinion only when there is advanced code which makes it a v1.0, v1.1, v1.2
just loading a new music to $1000 or a new font to $2000 doesn't make a new intro
So, are intros used in Demonomanie and The Rats same or different?
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686 |
This is stupid and redundant IMO.
Simply make a link to intros.c64.org!
BAH
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 347 |
fungus. i don't totally disagree with the idea, but the way its implimented would be good if it was linked more to the intro's site.
maybe a thumbnail of gfx so it would be a case of just quickly clicking the specific one.. some groups did loads of various ones.
if someone wants to go along and catalog them , thats up to them.. i'm not that ar**d..
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Hmm, yeah, Fungus... you are not as stupid as I look...
Although linking to other sites DOES introduce dependancies that might break in the future, for whatever reason. |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790 |
The benefit of having intro entries here is that credits can be added to those now.
This was lacking before, and might in the future shed some light on the origins of parts of the demo scene.
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