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2006-03-11 16:32
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
How low one can get #2

Making money by stepping on the ppls back that made demos for free, for the scene ?

http://home.ngi.de/digitalmemories/buy.html

if you charge no more than DVD and postal costs I take my words back. Otherwise.....
 
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2006-03-12 14:18
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053
Quote: creamd, the dvd in question havent asked for permission in atleast one case, according to hein.

anyway, being part of a society, and then making money out of the free stuff thats done for all members of the society for free... errhm..... khmm...

its not even according to groepaz kinda illegal, its sucking blood of the scene.


I don't expect that anyone of those guys advertising those 2 DVD's at c64.sk asked permission from anyone. And I wouldn't wonder if they didn't. Copyright law isn't taught at schools.. anyway -> www.whatiscopyright.org
2006-03-12 14:55
Slartibartfast
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Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 230
Quote: It would have been nice if they presented it like they did down here:

http://plus4.emucamp.com/features/meet_the_family/

Atleast there you can find your way to the scene.
(and get it for free aswell..)


Uh, that sure does sound kinda creepy, mister.

Aint this the scene right here? Pretty durn sure it's free, don't rightly know what point yer makin'.
2006-03-12 15:12
Tch
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Quote: Uh, that sure does sound kinda creepy, mister.

Aint this the scene right here? Pretty durn sure it's free, don't rightly know what point yer makin'.


What I ment is that there are actual links down there.
Click the Yellow `demo - group(s)´ list anywhere and you end up here at CSDb.
Unlike the DigitalMemories from post 1,which gives no related information at all.
(Is my English really that hard to understand?)

And ofcoz it´s free..
I hate copyright!
2006-03-12 15:25
Slartibartfast
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Language barrier ;)
2006-03-13 10:06
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
Concerning putting a Copyright into a Demo:
At most Parties it is not valid to "copyright" the Demos you release, you have to make them Freeware to release them at a Competition.

However, I think DVDs with Demos on it are really great, and there is no moneymaking or bloodsucking involved, just People who like C64Demos and DVD-Authoring.


@slarti:
No, this is not the scene. This is a Forum where some Scenefolks hang around (and some lamers..)
2006-03-13 10:23
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360
only because its freeware it doesnt mean it isnt copyrighted :) in many countries its actually impossible to completely give up your copyright (as in the american "public domain" distribution model).
2006-03-13 11:32
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053
Quote: only because its freeware it doesnt mean it isnt copyrighted :) in many countries its actually impossible to completely give up your copyright (as in the american "public domain" distribution model).

Exactly. Although it's called "author's rights" here. Author can't give them up, but he can e.g. give/sell "distribution rights" etc.
2006-03-13 19:44
Shortcircuit
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Hmmm. I kinda think it's easier to pay 10,-€, because when u live in Turkey like i do where high bandwith costs are skyhigh (well at least for us)and u have to compile the whole dvd. Well i like to do it but 4.7 gigs of c64 stuff? Guess could not find the time even if i leave my job and wife.So i rather pay that 10,-€ and stay mentaly healthy. And the copyright? Hell everything was released for free only the scene law, that you cannot ue code, music or gfx without crediting the creator can be taken in account. And like i said authoring a Dvd with c64 stuff is a bitch of a job, so don't the auther deserve a Euro or 2 for the work?
2006-03-13 19:58
Tch
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Posts: 512
@ShortCircuit: It´s not 4.7Gb of C64 stuff.
They probably recorded the demos while they were playing,so it´s more like a movie.
If they didn´t use a real C64,the quality might actually be not that good..
2006-03-13 20:11
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Shortcircuit, the purpose behind releaseing demos for free, is not that someone else can make money out of them, mkay? You can find a few demos infact declaring this.

low on bandwidth? the actual demos are max 400kb, download and enjoy them on the real thing (or emu). for FREE, you dont have to pay a cent.
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