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2017-06-27 16:38
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
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What is Onefile Demo, what is Graphics...

I recently started to go through a lot of art on here to put on my SD card for enjoyment on real hardware purposes.

Then I came across Industrial Dawn which is just a picture with music. I don't see anything else going on. (That said, it is really nice, both music and pic).

It is entered as One-File Demo, while a lot of pictures with music (could link a whole bunch by Mermaid for example, but also loads others), which are just entered as Graphics.

I guess there is no super easy way to draw a line here. Any thoughts?

IMO, demo would include at least some kind of effect, or a scroller maybe. But then people had a discussion about this when I released my Headache pic in the gfx compo at X'10.
 
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2017-06-29 19:59
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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and wouldnt it be appropriate to tag mermaids stuff with #underthesea ?
2017-06-29 20:06
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
Speaking of semantics: Are interlaced pictures animations?

Sounx makes a good point ("where the clear intention is the release of graphics"). Documenting the intention of the artist adds more information to the database than if the category can be derived from the artefact itself.

If a program was released in a graphics compo, it's a graphics release, even if it also plays a little melody. If the same program was released in a music compo, it's a music release, even if there's a bouncing goblin on the screen. And if --- gasp! --- it was released on csdb, then the intention of the artist is encoded in the choice of category when uploading.
2017-06-29 20:12
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
lft: that is an interesting way to look at it. Valid as well IMO.

As far as interlace being animation goes, I don't think so. In interlaced pictures, the way they traditionally are presented, there is no intent to show animation/movement, but to increase the resolution/colour depth.

IMO a char blinking in 2 colours is not animation, or even blinking in many colours. Is the garbled data written into the screen area you get when loading stuff sometimes animation? Not really. Could it be if used with intent and cleverly. Sure. But as I already stated earlier. This discussion kinda came up over my Headache picture.
2017-06-29 20:12
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
That said, tags would be neat.
2017-06-29 20:43
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357
#blinkingchars
2017-06-29 21:49
rail slave
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couldn't tags be abused though ? well, unless they are public and accountable so people arn't tagging all there pics mermaid,ptoing or whatever :P
2017-06-29 21:52
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
if there was a tag system, there should be some basic first tags, and users should be able to add new tags, and then they have to be approved first, so people can not add dumb shit willy nilly.

But this would be extra work on the staff here. And it would be somewhat involved, so I am not holding my breath.
2017-06-29 22:17
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Quoting lft
Speaking of semantics: Are interlaced pictures animations?

Yes.

*snip*

Quoting lft
If a program was released in a graphics compo, it's a graphics release, even if it also plays a little melody. If the same program was released in a music compo, it's a music release, even if there's a bouncing goblin on the screen. And if --- gasp! --- it was released on csdb, then the intention of the artist is encoded in the choice of category when uploading.


So people would enter a release in three categories?
2017-06-29 22:25
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357
ptoing: its exactly how it works like now, except its not called "tags", and rather than having some sort of interface for adding new ones, you ask for something being added.
2017-06-29 22:30
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
I know, I have asked Perff to add stuff before, and he did.
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