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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Questions about the demo scene of today
What do you think of the demo scene of today?
Here's my thoughts. Demos improved in the past and it is generally extremely difficult to come up with really cool effects. However, does this really matter? Demos are meant to be entertaining. Take Royal Arte, Deus Ex Machina and many other demos for example. I've been ever so impressed with the work put into the demos. They were entertaining.
As long as these demo groups are enjoying theirselves coding demos, or attending these scene parties, a massive thumbs up to them all :) |
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Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
Well, i care if someone makes his routines better, etc.. I still like it when new demos get released, and i don't HAVE to see special, supercool, mega code, i wanna see nice demos. that's all... Thumbs up for the ones still trying!! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3079 |
Quote: the demo scene today is still dieing and more than ever... just look at the ms2002 stuff, and you will see. I dont agree that there is nothing to improve yet, everything can be done better, and I prove this from demo to demo in my releases, but noone really cares, that I could make a texture cube about 2-3 frames faster than anyone, that I could make a fullscreen pixel plasma, ppl are imho bored and want really new stuff instead of improvements, new effects, new design, bla bla bla if one cant improve on things, he is not a kick ass coder simply... still there is so much left to be done, but fewer and fewer to realise it...
Mekka 2002 c64 stuff wasn't *that* bad... I saw worse parties in past few years. ;-)
I'm really sure that C64 scene is not dying, but returning on the right track. This Mekka was worse, next will be better. I'm pretty sure. Wanna bet? ;-))
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
MS2002 was a setback, but considering the releases last year I for one am a very happy camper, realizing that finally there seems to be put more thought in original concepts and idea's than just improving routines which were invented when the internet was still in black and white.
Don't get me wrong, I like a good technical demo from time to time but I prefer real depth anyday! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3079 |
Evolution has some very good parts. I especially like the sphere mapping with aditional effects. Also music is very good in this demo. I like it, although it could have been a little more polished. |
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Commander
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 106 |
The demo-scene is certainly not dying!!! Those who say this, aren't really present in the scene...
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Dwangi
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130 |
Mekka 2002 had not that good releases BUT one the other hand look at mekka 99 ! That party had not so cool releases either and look what happened at mekka 2000 :) ..
About demos in generall.... ppl have said since 1993 that senctence :) "there is not anything more to improve , there is no new effects that can be discovered etc" ..
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bubis
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 19 |
Quote: the demo scene today is still dieing and more than ever... just look at the ms2002 stuff, and you will see. I dont agree that there is nothing to improve yet, everything can be done better, and I prove this from demo to demo in my releases, but noone really cares, that I could make a texture cube about 2-3 frames faster than anyone, that I could make a fullscreen pixel plasma, ppl are imho bored and want really new stuff instead of improvements, new effects, new design, bla bla bla if one cant improve on things, he is not a kick ass coder simply... still there is so much left to be done, but fewer and fewer to realise it...
I think there are many math related effect what is not realized yet. I am not talking about new kind of plasmas. For example i have made fast rotating tunel on C=+4 (without speedcode). I have not seen this on C64. There are many new things that are still possible on this machine. I hope I'll have enought time and energy to make these. My dream is a hyperbolic plane animation on the Poincare model. Do you know Escher? :) |
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Dwangi
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130 |
intressting no doubt about that... but i dont think any new effekts are possible without speedcode. |
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bubis
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 19 |
Quote: intressting no doubt about that... but i dont think any new effekts are possible without speedcode.
I think this is too strong statement. Every (not hardware) effect are possible without speedcode but of course speedcode is faster. |
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Carcass
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 17 |
just the fact that there was so many releases impresses me, but then we've only had 1 ntsc release this year, so i might be easy to impress right now. |
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