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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 85 |
BYEBYE
After watching csdb and not logging in, for months I say
BYEBYE...
I deleted my profile and you could delete my account.
From today I won't give out anything anylonger.
I didn't delete my releases, if anybody will do, I don't care.
If you prefer CRYpt+WDR style and quality, now you can get it daily.
I am really fed up with allowing every shit on this database and if you call it SHIT or CRAP or lower standard than 1985
you hear only "better shit and active than being inactive".
Recracks, SEUCKs, BASIC and frozen "cracks" are allowed here.
WOW! What impressive style.
To say it clear: I dislike it if anybody adds something from me here in the future.
The most of you forum- or demosceners have no fucking clue
how the real scene worked and still the cracks were there before the demos, which many forget so easily.
Respect for the people who did anything in the past (and
I don't speak about me here) is nowhere (good example:
OSWALD, but with him I could live as he could code decent)
but only lamers pretending to be cool all day.
As already said, others say if you are elite or a legend
or not. Getting attacked caring about my part of the scene
(e.g. cracking) or holding up old values and style is boring
me to death. Even a demoscener or a guy who can't code could see what is lame crap or not.
But nobody cares, so do I.
Yeah, those ignoring and "don't feed the troll" helped really a lot. I know some people who are dead because they
did the same or they had to struggle hard to kill the people
who they should have done sth against at first place.
ByeBye...
Have fun playing those killerreleases of CRYpt, CIVITAS
and KRYNN LTD., the elite of 2007.
Gone...
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Perff needs to take control. He is in command to do some good here and actually show some form of moderation (why he doesn't appoint several people to be moderating is just ridiculous).
TWR, Troublemaker, Secretman should be deleted from this database and all other forums. They should be made to disappear. Allowing us to continue without their attacks.
Is the C64 scene to wimpy to do this? No. But some moderators need to really take a stand and stop playing around. |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621 |
Ignorance was hell of a good scener. I remember when the CRAP'D posse appeared from nowhere with an improved Bomb Chase. Ignorance gave me some friendly advice on how a production should be compressed correctly, when it comes to adding intros and things like that. :) He seems a friendly person in general :) So respect goes out to him.
Secondly, a way bit off topic, but I am also here to support the C64 scene database. I have found various programs (Mainly tools) by sceners, which I hope to continue uploading on to the database now and then. 10 at a time now and then, because mass uploading is too much work :) Well, I hope to add Sub Hunter (Full game) to the CSDB once it is finished and ready for release. :)
I think Jazzcat is right regarding recruiting a few more people to moderate the CSDB. I think the people who know the scene really well (or contributes a lot to the scene) should be part of the CSDB crew. That way we get less trouble and hopefully the scene can be back to normal :)
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The Overkiller
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342 |
A Note to You
Mr. twr says also Bacchus (and I mean BACCHUS) is a lamer.... Well, take your own conclusions! |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Quoting JazzcatPerff needs to take control. (...) (why he doesn't appoint several people to be moderating is just ridiculous).
I agree on both counts.
Quoting JazzcatTWR, Troublemaker, Secretman should be deleted from this database and all other forums. They should be made to disappear. Allowing us to continue without their attacks.
This is not feasable. Anybody can create new accounts at any time. A hostile attitude towards people will only result in an unwanted reaction. An eye for an eye and the world turns blind...
Quoting RichardI think Jazzcat is right regarding recruiting a few more people to moderate the CSDB. I think the people who know the scene really well (or contributes a lot to the scene) should be part of the CSDB crew. That way we get less trouble and hopefully the scene can be back to normal :)
The most important features of a moderator are that he is unbiased, emotional in control of himself and honest.
The amount of contribution is irrelevant or in some cases even counter productive.
I find it a bit disturbing how terribly old fashioned and childish people stick to the importance of status. Most of us are well in their 30s and should have some better knowledge of how the world operates best. This is not by hierarchy but by cooperation. |
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Sixx
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229 |
.. And i find it a bisturbing that CSDB allows members who harass people in real life. WHEN are you people gonna wake up and see what is going on here? Cooperation you say? Aha! That's when those people work together sending used condoms to other CSDB members, sending spam (100.000 of them) to other CSDB members, harassing friends and relatives of CSDB members (making them quit the scene) and... last but not least, Recrack. |
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NoRi
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 24 |
The fact of a war in a community can be easily understood (I dont agree but who cares and I certainly dont), we are not in 1988. But seeing private life interfering in is less funny...That's an obvious proof that some of them can absolutely not make the difference between private life and the "scene" and it leads to stupidity pushed to its paroxism. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
I was aware of the malicious actions and I find it very weird.
However, petty actions like banning someone from a forum will not let the problem go away. In fact, it might make it even worse:
A) hostility provokes exactly the behaviour you DON'T want
B) the banned person comes back under another name, so you'll loose track of him
Ranting on a forum will create more reason, putting pictures online to proof harassments will create trophies.
It's like a cheap sci-fi TV show where the monster is fed by the energy of the space ship that tries to get away. In the end it strengthens the monster and crushes the good guys.
The more you struggle, the more you get strangled. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Mace: perhaps if your family and friends were harassed in real life, your views would be a lot different.
These people have malicious intent.
They should be removed. Simple. Nothing further to discuss. |
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The Shark-INC
Account closed
Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 24 |
Mace,
I couldn't disagree more, and here's why. These sceners who cross the line and harass in real life crave an audience. If you take away that audience, they are less motivated to present their "trophies". I agree that it won't make them completely stop, but at least the rest of the scene doesn't have to deal with it on a daily basis. It also sends a message to others who consider doing such acts that they be will ostracized.
In the case of Wanderer and his supporters, they have done some really sick stuff that has caused some productive sceners to leave altogether. This is the part that where we have to join together to set some sort of minimum ethic standards otherwise the scene as a whole suffers and will lose more people.
Because of what WDR did, he was banned from several C64 sites. So WDR didn't leave the scene. The scene left him...and we're better for it. By allowing the deviants to have an audience is more like the cheap sci-fi show that you mention. Banning them is like changing the channel.
The more we join together and fight for what is right, the less people will mess with you. Conversely, if you give up and look the other way, the harassers then know that their tactics work and will continue.
The Shark |
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SECRET MAN
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336 |
Quote: Perff needs to take control. He is in command to do some good here and actually show some form of moderation (why he doesn't appoint several people to be moderating is just ridiculous).
TWR, Troublemaker, Secretman should be deleted from this database and all other forums. They should be made to disappear. Allowing us to continue without their attacks.
Is the C64 scene to wimpy to do this? No. But some moderators need to really take a stand and stop playing around.
Oh David.Sorry,that i have my opinion and i think its not forbidden.So i can utter this,or??
I dont need to lick ya ass like other dudes here.
First i thought,that you are normal,but that was wrong.
You are really clownish.You attacked me as first in oneliners and then in the user forum.
Here:
Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 428 Yeh, how come the pathetic CRYpt releases are not there?
Le Caravage
Wanderer
BAMU/NATA/fuckhead
TROUBLEMAKER (Secretman)
TWR
all members of the RETARD scene!
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