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2007-12-12 12:37
wreg
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Registered: Mar 2004
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Comments on Sceners

i'd like to be able to enter just like i can on Releases

i wouldn't have to hack the comments into the trivia field if it existed ...

Joe
 
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2007-12-12 19:19
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338
Groepaz: if the rules say it is ok to add comparisons between timbaland and scener X to scener X' profile and that scener X can't do anything about it, then the rules need to be adjusted imho.

And a MODERATOR (who does NOT have a csdb profile and has aparently NEVER released anything for the C64 worthy of adding to this database, correct me if I am wrong please) adding such important information ("hey, JOE was the timbaland of 1992 woot") to the database is also ok according to the rules?

Is this what the database is about, recording all sorts of shit and mistakes from the past and putting it on the person's profile for all eternity? The releases are still there, and those who are interested in diving into the sewage to retrieve shit about people have an abundance of material to chose from, isn't that enough? Should every mistake a person has done be listed on their profile?

Keep it to the releases, imho, and stop smearing whatever feces you dig up over people's profiles.
2007-12-12 19:25
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
i totally agree with you vanja, my comment was in no way ment to protect anyone adding crap to some profile. i just wanted to point at the rulez, which define what info is "owned" by an individual scener, and which is considered public.
2007-12-12 19:30
Ed

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 173
@Vanja: totally agree. Disc magazines where used to report all kinds of stuff and some times even demos
where made to write bollocks and send some love letters. There are by the way some recent love letters that
might be found from some cracker that used to work from some cracker group, by the way.

I can see a problem here: The scroll-texts can contain crap stuff and it is still not late to make a scroll text.
A forum thread can contain crap stuff and it is never too late to write that, and so forth. and so on.

A comment of a release is one thing. And we have all witnessed over the few days what kind of BITCHING TOPIC
that it can turn out to be.

All in all it should be about finding proper releases, release-dates (and I still vote for CREATION-DATE)

And please. Respect all the active few left.

If all there is left is about making H A T E and NAG demos, then atleast go home and produce more demos!

(that last part was not seriously meant of course... )
2007-12-12 19:35
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338
Groepaz: But if you enable people to add comments to people's profiles, you open a pandora's box with all sorts of crap and grudges.

As this example with the Timbaland comment proves, you aparently can't expect moderators to be above that sort of behaviour either...so forgive me if I don't really feel safe about leaving it to the moderators to weed out the crap that doesn't belong on people's profiles.

Quote:
If you find an entry in CSDb missing, which you know should be there, and think this is a mistake - or if you by accident deletes something yourself, you can contact the admin.
We keep backups of all deletions, and can restore records that are deleted.
There are some people dosn't want there scener-record to be in CSDb, or perhaps their releases, so if this is the case we will not restore the entry

Is this ^^ outdated information? If so maybe the FAQ should be updated. It looks from that text like the CSDb *does* take into consideration that not everyone wants to be part of it, which makes me wonder, why is it ok to delete all your info but not to claim ownership of your own profile?
2007-12-12 19:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
Quote:

Groepaz: But if you enable people to add comments to people's profiles, you open a pandora's box with all sorts of crap and grudges.


it's not much different now, is it? =P

Quote:

Is this ^^ outdated information? If so maybe the FAQ should be updated. It looks from that text like the CSDb *does* take into consideration that not everyone wants to be part of it, which makes me wonder, why is it ok to delete all your info but not to claim ownership of your own profile?


this does indeed look like it slipped through when we updated the rules (the faq wasnt updated at this point)
2007-12-12 20:05
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
"As this example with the Timbaland comment proves, you aparently can't expect moderators to be above that sort of behaviour either."

Well, if a moderator behaves like this, he is not a moderator, at least not in the definition of the word moderator.

What good is a moderator, if he brings up trouble, instead of calming it down?

2007-12-12 20:06
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229
"Submitted by wreg [PM] on 12 December 2007
according to Fuck Antic, joe was the timbaland in those days
perhaps someone here should change the graphics-credits :)"

@wreg:

Hm. Well obviously I made some logos in that demo as well, so the credits is still valid! Not for this specific piece though, which was a remake from another artist picture. It's a shame that this old release "fuck Antic" wasn't here all ready. But it seems like after yesterdays flaw (joke) of Mirage was so heavily discussed, I'd guess you guys wanted a new drama...

Well, this drama is around 15 years old by now, and I guess I've made several original things afterwards. And the specific file "fuck Antic" was ofcourse widely spread during that time. Heh! I even got it from several of my mail-contacts.

And in the case of the explanation from Depeh/Antic, you can search through the Explorer-magazines. I think there was a official statement about the mistake of using that remake (a personal test as I "grew" as artist, lending a bit here and there - this one wasn't meant to be released at all).

Calling me a Timbaland of that time is a rough remark, and since I noticed you edited my user I think I must agree with others that you stepped over the line. In the future please don't be so eager with the fingers... And if you search after drama, please have in mind that the drama might be played on your behalf.

I simply think this is utterly silly.

/James Svärd [Joe/Wrath Designs]
2007-12-12 20:44
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229
@wreg:

And besides...
What ever fantastic things did you do for our scene? Why can't I find you in the search-field (CSDb) in the first place? Are you even a c64-scener? Are you active and in what field, in what sense?

Or maybe I should raise the question to the rest of you participating this scene: Who is this guy and what did he do for us? Do we have a link of this prick?

Now, didn't I entertain a lot of you during the year with my strange things? And in one sense, might still? I hope my own 15+ years of scene-activity wasn't all too wasted. And this goes for Mirage/Focus as well: Isn't his art fantastic? And weren't your reactions the other day just too far fetched? Come on you guys, r e l a x

/James Svärd [Joe/Wrath Designs]
2007-12-12 22:07
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
I also think that comments on sceners aren't good idea. I can imagine how that would end. Every (un)popular scener would get a lot of more-or-less "important and true facts" attached to their profiles and if moderators will eventually decide to sort that out someone will start to accuse them of restraining the free speech and all that crap.

No. No and once again No! ;-))

Besides. I don't want to have someone mentioning my pissing from the stairs at X-2001 in the comments under my profile ;-)). It !never happened!!! ;-)
2007-12-12 22:10
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
Quote:

Besides. I don't want to have someone mentioning my pissing from the stairs at X-2001 in the comments under my profile ;-)). It !never happened!!! ;-)


i'll put it in trivia then =)
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