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2007-01-16 21:30
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
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timbalamer

this is so yesterdays news, but how the hell is it possible nobody cared to open a thread about this here?

everyone else did!

http://www.pelulamu.net/timbaland/

The Tempest track is here -> http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/tempest_acidjazz.mp3
The GRG C64 version is here -> http://www.c64.org/HVSC/VARIOUS/A-F/Blues_Muz/Gallefoss_Glenn/A..
The Furtado track is here -> http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/furtado_doit.mp3

You can also see a Youtube video comparing the tracks here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q
 
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2007-01-18 08:21
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
fade: To ripp a drumbeat or a some chords or harmonys is ok and kosher, but this isnt the case. Timbaland just sample THE WHOLE SONG (- bass+drums), put his own bass+drums on it and whola two new songs (blockparty and Do it), thats my friend is NOT sampling, inspire, influenced its not even plagiarism, its simply bootlegging, stealing or theft...
2007-01-18 08:43
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942
CreamD, I respect you as a person, but not as a journalist. :)
I'm not saying he shouldn't be compensated, am I? I drag the crackscene into this, because we're all part of it. We all played/cracked games. This will be mentioned if Timbalake is smart enough to find out. It is a shameless rip-off, then again, this is the world we live in.

Besides, speaking of credits, can't remember Tempest gave credit to the original painter of his Disco demo picture. (The girl in white dress).

At least Burglar doesn't care he's a hypocrit, coz we all are over here.
2007-01-18 09:09
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
I bet timbaland never ever played cracked games :P anyway, putting your name on something you havent done is so awfully wrong, that I cant imagine a situation where I'd do that!
2007-01-18 10:09
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
Quote: CreamD, I respect you as a person, but not as a journalist. :)
I'm not saying he shouldn't be compensated, am I? I drag the crackscene into this, because we're all part of it. We all played/cracked games. This will be mentioned if Timbalake is smart enough to find out. It is a shameless rip-off, then again, this is the world we live in.

Besides, speaking of credits, can't remember Tempest gave credit to the original painter of his Disco demo picture. (The girl in white dress).

At least Burglar doesn't care he's a hypocrit, coz we all are over here.


Hein. I'm not a journalist. You can thank god for being wrong (again?), because if I was, I would take that as insult.. phew... ;-)
2007-01-18 10:09
fade
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Posts: 290
Quote: fade: To ripp a drumbeat or a some chords or harmonys is ok and kosher, but this isnt the case. Timbaland just sample THE WHOLE SONG (- bass+drums), put his own bass+drums on it and whola two new songs (blockparty and Do it), thats my friend is NOT sampling, inspire, influenced its not even plagiarism, its simply bootlegging, stealing or theft...

Humour me here, i've just sampled a few seconds of a whole song, twisted one knob (guess which? :) and listen to the result, does this make me a bootleggz0rz, stealz0r or thefty person, even though it's hardly recognisable from it's original?

http://www.stopwastingmyoxygen.com/original.wav
http://www.stopwastingmyoxygen.com/modded.mp3

(total file size is 1.2 meg)

Edit: it should be noted that i haven't actually written any music since 2001, god only knows how kiddies can fuck around these days,with all the software around.
2007-01-18 10:14
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
Quote: Humour me here, i've just sampled a few seconds of a whole song, twisted one knob (guess which? :) and listen to the result, does this make me a bootleggz0rz, stealz0r or thefty person, even though it's hardly recognisable from it's original?

http://www.stopwastingmyoxygen.com/original.wav
http://www.stopwastingmyoxygen.com/modded.mp3

(total file size is 1.2 meg)

Edit: it should be noted that i haven't actually written any music since 2001, god only knows how kiddies can fuck around these days,with all the software around.


Fade, I don't know what do you want to prove, but as far as Do It is concerned it uses GRG's tune in bacgkround and that's undisputable. It also takes melody from Tempest's tune which is also undisputable. There is no reason for discussing this further here and simulate the dumbness of "youtube video commenting community". ;-)
2007-01-18 11:27
The Overkiller
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342
This timbaland ain't like a cracker, he's more like a re-cracker ;-)
2007-01-18 11:52
fade
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290
Sorry Roman, i didn't see your "you must be this leet to have your post read" sign..

Apologies!
2007-01-18 11:56
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
Quote: Sorry Roman, i didn't see your "you must be this leet to have your post read" sign..

Apologies!


Apologies accepted.
2007-01-18 12:12
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 90
Roman took the words out of my mouth. I think you spot the difference of your example and what Timbeland did, musician as you are and everything. Peace!
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