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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
the ed and joe graphic spam bomb
guys, do we really need those tons and tons of already released material to csdb? I think not.
especially when you don't even upload a file with it. if I want to see your stuff, I'll check the original production. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
Quote: @burglar: just wanted to blame you for ripping my idea from my previous post! ;)
;)) actually, tmr came up with it on irc way before the both of us ;) |
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T.M.R
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749 |
Did i? Shows you how much i listen to myself! |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
Quote: Did i? Shows you how much i listen to myself!
err no, you didnt, I mixed things up :/ |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Okay, lemme raise another angle: Convenience!
While I don't actually think 200-300 releases break the CSDB or that we won't find anything - what about the people trying to enjoy this?
I'm working hard just clicking myself through this! It would be SO MUCH better if all of this would be released in one big gfx collie ("Joe's complete works" or sth!) to check out on the real machine! Who wants to download, compile and transfer 300 individual pictures?
And making such a collection would be less work than adding 300 entries to CSDB prolly! ;-)
Lemme just say that I think it was unfair to call this "spam", and that some people are really overreacting on this. They do have a point however, we definately do not need separate entries for fonts (!)...
And i gotta say i REALLY REALLY second that idea of a HGSC, like the HVSC or Zyron's Intro Collection! 8)
There are quite a few problems though: What about animated GFX? What about storing executables? Is that even possible? Some stuff just cannot be ripped out of a Demopart!...
As for Joe: Please, please, don't leave the scene! Seeing your GFX (among others!) back in 91 made me pick up making GFX! ;-)
While I have to say I'm not as fond of (most of) the industrial stuff as i was of your colorful piccies (I'm just a sucker for colorful, can't help it! 8) I do appreciate the experimental and artistic advancements you make with them. I certainly do most enjoy the industrial style in Demos, "A quoi ca cert" ranks pretty high in my book! |
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Higgie
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 116 |
@burglar: ok! the points for the first release of the idea might go to T.M.R. but i will do the jewel version when i find time to. :)
it would be really cool if we could have such a database for gfx with links to the productions they were used in, links to the creators csdb profiles, screenshots and downloads of the picture in all possible formats. ... would be so great! :) but i have to admit, that i'm very low on sparetime these days. :(
is there anybody willing to join in such an effort? i guess it's too much for just a one man project. (maybe we should start a differnt forum thread then...) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
sorry, I'm not going to read this scene drama to the end because it started to get even more surrealistic than some of my own forum performances, just one thing addressed to Joe and Ed.
Quote:... and yeah.. all of the releases will be complemented with .prg and .d64 files also. This will make csdb grow even more...
ADD the files and everything will be okay. Thank you. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Can I raise my hand in favour of Ed and Joe? I absolutely enjoy these graphical masterpieces, especially the dupes from VN, I almost forgot about them.
Ok, the fonts are a tad too much for me too. But CSDb won't explode because of these (how much are we talking about anyway?) 50 or 100 releases. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quoting Higgiehow about building a counterpart of HVSC for gfx? who want's to join? a database for all the chars, logos, fullscreens... that were ever done. including workstages whenever possible. that would be an appropriate way of preserving history in the field of c64 gfx art. (no joking here! what do you think about a HighPixelGrafixCollection aka 'HPGC'?) :) I'm on it since quite some time, collecting every kind of C64 graphics in an online database. Huge part of the web app is done. I'll let you know if it ever goes live (don't except it in the near future, though). |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
This is an "anti-comment", got tired of trying to explain anything at all cause it all seems so obvious to me.
I started reading cause I thought this was a concern of mine, but the tread is too long so I got bored & skipped the last 5-6 posts.
Anyway, I've in some comment stated something similar about Ed uplodaing lots of .sid files as entries here.
Let me start by pointing out that this is no try to step on anyone, both Joe & Ed are amazing artists & nice people..
BUT..
To me, the massadding of (sometimes) unreleased stuff seems pretty wrong.
Should this be the new "hit"?
"I hit CSDb last night, added 3 more unfinished demo parts that show examples of something unfinished. Oh, and the music can be found as .sid in HVSC. Only. But not anymore."
Should I add all the 400+ songs I composed as separate .sid entries?
No! I shouldn't.
Why should you? |
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Ed
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 173 |
Zyron: sorry But I simply had to use your .sid example. I think it was a good example of the blind spot on csdb. To bad it had to be you that got to be my example, but...
What you shall or shall not do is not any concern of mine. You have made some good tunes, some bad. Hey taste is free, right?
To me it would probably be as hard to find among your stuff if you added the 400 releases, but then again 400 aint that much. But sure, it takes time... And perhaps time is also an issue here... We are talking about 20 years of production stuffed in collections. Hard to isolate. But obviously that is also the problem concerning this issue: hard to isolate the facts from fiction.
Now can I upload a dvd instead? What should I do? all the video releases have vanished from csdb. these were priceless documents due to the fact that there are no harddisk place for them. but come on. wd is a dvd at maximum. maybe some more if we add on some pc, amiga, stuff. So where should I store all this?
Would it worked if i kept the dupes inside the releases instead, like Mermaid did?
You want me to remove the dupes, sure. will do. will include the dupes in a more fancy way: Would like like to see it as comments instead perhaps?
Come one. When is this going to end? The releases are open and will stay that way. Go ahead. remove them. take the consequenses. Leave me with no choise around here. tell me how to vote and think and how I should react. Where is the fucking freedom man? Responsibility? Is that it? yeeez
Now. relax. I am not angry. Just had one of my drama queen moments :) let the show continue
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