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2009-04-20 09:30
SIDWAVE
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Release id #77865 : VW Kever

Pull your head out of the ass, and get those converted pics deleted from this database, before its all pure crap!
 
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2009-04-22 04:19
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
Quote: yes do that and we all can jump on your release, start a figth and call you names like lamer etc.... :P

but seriously i think these bully posting should stop rigth now, its a shame that these thing keep on going to release after release. the really sad thing that will happen in the end if this continue, is when people dont release becouse of fear of being pissed on and get their release deleted. all becouse of a few that have an "eleet" attitude problem.

i personally have no problem with the the vw kever release, it was nice even for a convert and a interesting picture.

quit the hating start enjoying your c64, it is after all what we are here for :)



"the really sad thing that will happen in the end if this continue, is when people dont release becouse of fear of being pissed on and get their release deleted. all becouse of a few that have an "eleet" attitude problem."

LOL. refusing zero nonvalue crap no effort convert SHITE is not elitism. Obviously even the author feels the general shame associated with such moves as there was no credit given.
2009-04-22 06:59
SIDWAVE
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To the admins:

Why dont you make a poll, and let the users decide ?
2009-04-22 07:00
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Oswald:Yep.

This is not "save the scene" database. It has some standards and it tries to stick to them. It's purpose is not to serve as a place for release of (our) crap, it's here for the purpose of collecting information about the scene.

It's generally very bad idea to register here with the purpose of using this site as a release service. If you are proud of your stuff, make a site for that, upload it to ftp servers, send it in snail mail sendings, spread it on meetings, compete in competitions and eventually get into (put it) this database.

Don't mistake this place for "free blog" or "twitter" where anything is accepted, because the profile is yours. The user account is yours, you can discuss, or comment, vote, but the scener profile isn't "yours", it's "about you". You can release anything outside the CSDB, but noone assures everything gets here. And I don't think it should.
2009-04-22 07:12
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
This always raises the question 'what is considered crap and who decides?'

possibly a 'nominate for deletion' functionality may give the power to the people, with a fair deal of criteria ofcourse (i.e. at least x nominations, a score of 4 or less etc.)

then we may get a sweet list of trash where we can undelete the crap in the same way.

but all this will probably cause other riots.
2009-04-22 07:46
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
On a side note, I find it odd that Oswald is complaining about wired GFX. Him being the one who put that wonderful converter function into P1 :-D
2009-04-22 07:49
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
I have a (maybe provocative) idea that I declare superior to all alternatives from now on :)

- differenciate between UPLOAD and RELEASE.
- allow uploads such as converted pictures
- status RELEASE is only given to "things" that were in fact released at a Party!

Maybe that concept could even be used for other productions.
So if you want a glorious RELEASE, make sure it reaches a Party. Yet you can upload your current worktune, latest quick-n-dirty picture any time.

What do you guys think?
The Party staff will have to decide. This seems reasonable and will easyly reflect the Party too. Kickass Parties with lotsa top entries wont allow crap to be released. Smaller ones will have to.

edit:
since there is already a tag "released at" this could be done semi-automatically even. Instead of renaming releases into uploads the REAL releases could get some easy-to-spot TAG (some cooooool logo or so?)
2009-04-22 07:54
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
PS: I dont really think a "nominate for deletion" is such a great idea.
Just think of the drama we've got with downvoting. Now imagine what will happen if people can nominate something for deletion.

And dont get me started about common sense, there is no such thing among the users of this database. The only thing we've got in common here is our lunacy.
2009-04-22 08:21
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Enthusi, your idea is too complicated.

Personally, I feel an itch when people try to add complexity to the system to prevend incidents.
In general, additions will eventually lead to more problems.

I think it's less effort to just have this discussion once in a while and then decide 'incident based'.
2009-04-22 08:26
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
Quote: On a side note, I find it odd that Oswald is complaining about wired GFX. Him being the one who put that wonderful converter function into P1 :-D


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gah :D thanks for the compliment. credit must be given to Mirage tho, the best color conversion method (you can select from a few) is based on his algorythm. anyway it was fun to code and finetune the converter, but had not in mind that it should be used for wiring&uploading, I just wanted to make a good one. it was a challenge :)

on
2009-04-22 09:11
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401
How many pixels is one required to change in a converted picture for it not to be classified as a convert? 1? all?
What about colours?
Is hand pixeling from a photo a convertion? Is scanning and converting own photos acceptable? What if pixels got changed after converting?
Should we delete all sound sampled content too as this basically is also just a "convertion"?
Should all code containing code from codebase be stripped from the db as well?
Should code written in an assembler be stripped from the db, as this is also just a convertion?

If someone adds a lame ass scroll to that picture and releases it as a one-file demo, should we then strip the picture from the demo and keep the lame-ass scroll?

If this fictive lame ass demo was released BEFORE the picture, then I would agree that the picture as a standalone release would not be worth it's own entry, but then that opinion raises some entirely new concerns...

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