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2020-06-05 15:41
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
SID Factory II

Laxity and I have decided to go BETA with SID Factory II to let all curious SID composers also have a go at this cross-platform SID editor.

We have a Facebook group that you are welcome to join. There's also a nifty user manual there. If you're not on Facebook, this thread should serve as another place where we can share questions, ideas, music, bugs, new builds, additional files, etc.

Please note that although SID Factory II is quite stable and more than capable of editing SID tunes at this point, it is still missing a few essential things such as e.g. sub tunes. We have a solid ToDo and will post new builds here as they become available.

The first official BETA build: SIDFactoryII_20200604.zip
 
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2020-08-11 14:51
freℚvibez

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 27
Any chance for a Linux version? :)
(would love a static binary or Debian package)

How about releasing it under a permissive license?
2020-08-11 21:07
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
It _is_ GPL, they just choose to ignore that fact apparently.
2020-08-11 21:13
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Still not adhering to the GPL? Are you guys afraid to publish your code? Is it that shitty?
2020-08-11 21:52
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
I bet they're not quite fond of any 3rd party branches at this point of development? ;)
2020-08-11 22:05
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160
But it's not like any 3rd party forks would need to be supported, or even need to avoid breaking changes in the main branch. The "you break it, you get to keep both pieces" part is already covered by the GPL license itself.
2020-08-12 00:01
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980
Quoting JCH
Laxity plans to release the source code later (the use of ReSID requires us to do so) after cleaning up some things in it. We don’t have an ETA yet, though.
Ugh, reading that kind of nonsense* would normally set me off quite a bit. Reading this on a renowned C-64 forum, though, by renowned C-64 musicians using a renowned SID emulator... not sure. Jury out until end of summer, maybe.

* Interpreting this as not quite understanding the terms rather than utter negligence or even outright evilness, for now. But then "need to clean up first" is a lame excuse no matter what. Really.
2020-08-12 15:31
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
Damn, why are you guys so hostile and pushing everytime GPL is even mentioned? That's really some Linux entitlement toxic shit. Maybe leave decision to the authors, will ya? ;)
2020-08-12 15:41
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
The authors already decided, and choose GPL. It's that simple. Nothing to do with "hostile" at all. If you don't like how GPL works, don't choose GPL. It's that simple.
2020-08-12 16:21
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 498
Quoting Jammer
That's really some Linux entitlement toxic shit.

If you open source your code of course you're entitled to chose whatever license you want. And if someone uses that code I would consider it the "normal" behaviour to respect that license. Wether it's on Linux, Windows or Amiga OS ;-)

And: the VICE project and it's components have a long sad "tradition" of code being used in other projects (even commercial ones) with many completely ignoring their license. I can understand that VICE coders are kind of frustrated by that.
2020-08-12 16:31
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
I know that Groepaz always reminds of GPL compliance but he's usually quite formal so I get it. Krill's stance, on the other hand, was imho a hit below the belt in any discussion. Blame it on the heat, I guess? :D

BTW, gotta give a new version another go. Maybe my impressions will change.
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