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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
How low one can get #2
Making money by stepping on the ppls back that made demos for free, for the scene ?
http://home.ngi.de/digitalmemories/buy.html
if you charge no more than DVD and postal costs I take my words back. Otherwise..... |
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Shortcircuit
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Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 12 |
@Tch Point taken.
I stand with what i wrote if the dvd is made of converted c64 files. Otherwise it's pretty lame. Why the hell would i want to watch them in *.Avi formt?(if they use divx)It's the cllection of the files that is important for me. |
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Shortcircuit
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Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 12 |
@Oswald
I ment if i want to dowload c=64 stuff with the idear to catalog and burn them to a Dvd which means a hell of a lot of files to download, and the here the bandwith is bloody limited. I have a max 3 gigs.So tht would be a really shity job. I don't mean them to me a real profit, just earning for giving service. |
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Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
I`m almost certain the DVD contains recorded demos.
There are 16 demos on the DVD.
Lets say every demo is 2 disk-sides (1 D64=171 KB).
That makes 5472Kb!!
Think twice before you pay! ;) |
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 122 |
Hmm,. I didn't knew about these collections. I once bought MindcandyDVD and didn't considered it like someone getting money from someone elses work. In fact that one was produced from some sceners, which was like a documentary to present the scene to the public. There were also special features inside, interviews with some old PC sceners, unfinished demos never seen before, quite cool features and an extra option to hear documentary while watching the demos, with either funny or interesting comments. It was from motivated sceners with the purpose of presenting the scene to a greater public. And it was all recorded, something to watch on your DVD-player ;)
About these DVDs here I don't know. I like teh covers, but if it's just the demos with no more features, if it's not like the documentary way it is in MindcandyDVD, then this sucks :P. Cause you could just download watch the demos in the emulator or the real thing and there is nothing else interesting to watch there.
Does anyone know more about the contents of those C64 DVDs?
p.s. I guess I'd better wait for the incoming Mindcandy DVDs which will present the Amiga and C64 scene.
p.p.s. And yes, permision is due. Mindcandy got the permission for the demos iirc and they even featured some interviews/discussions in the demo commentary, with some of the older scene farts they got in contact with! |
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 122 |
And a small question:
What happens when you want to release a DVD with a collection full of demos, not 10 specific recorded demos but just about everything (thousands of demos)? Do you have to ask just about everyone for the permission? Or does the scene have to generally agree with you? E.g. the Hornet Archive CDs that featured all PC demos and other stuff from 1987 to 1995 (and second volume from 1996 to 1998). The guys who owned the Hornet Archive (www.hornet.org) are the same behind the MindCandyDVD. Since they had the collection of just about every demo they could get and an archive for sceners to download demos, they thought it would be nice to put them in a CD, so that people who didn't have internet access could get them all at once by buying the CD. This was usefull for the scene and also helped into making the scene more known to people who didn't have internet connection or weren't aware of it.
I don't know. Maybe if you want to present few demos in a DVD recorded, you have to take permission. But with big collections downloaded from an archive? Weren't there CDs with freeware public domain/shareware in the market once ago? I see these actions mostly as a way to spread your work, not purely as a motive to make money.. |
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Slartibartfast
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Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 230 |
The creative digital arts are not in the public domain, you'll have to wait. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
optimus, so the work involved in demos doesnt worth a cent, while the work of collecting demos has a right to be payed for ?
strange...
someone makes material for the scene - considered free stuff
someone collects material already done - considered payable stuff
hmm ?!? strange... |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
optimus, as for your 2nd post
the problem is not with asking permission. if you collect demos on a dvd, and release it for free u dont need for ask for permission, but things become different when you charge money for it. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
This is the E-mail I got from them months ago:
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hello,
please help me! sorry, but only this e-mail i had found and
i don't know if it is good.
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we made a DVD of the best Commodore Plus4 demos in 2005,
and it was quite successful so we decided to make a new
one from the best COMMODORE64 demos.
The only things missing from it are some commentaries to
the demos.
SPHAERISTERIUM
we'd like to ask you to write commentaries as your demo(s)
was/were selected to be part of this collection.
Please let us know as soon as possible if you want to
join this project. (PLEASE JOIN !!!)
If you are interested in the C+4 DVD, log on to
http://plus4.emucamp.com/features.php?id=9
for more information.
we thought yours subtitles should include information
about technical details or members of the group but the
main point is to make it interesting. OF COURSE YOUR
COMMENTS SHOULD BE IN ENGLISH.
If you need the timeline for timing your comments please
write an e-mail to me and I will send it to you with
details on how many lines should write.
Thank You very much, and please answer me ASAP!
Lacoste/WLS
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a választásban! Több mint 50 000 állás Európa szerte. - http://www.jobpilot.hu
"
I never answered it, and never forwarded it. Still! according to the DVD cover there are subtitles to the demo created by the creators of the demo?!?
As some sort of comfort I can say that I'm lucky we didn't have a starfield effect because those doesn't compress very well in MPG2... :D |
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Shortcircuit
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Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 12 |
I don't know about the others but have to say that the idear of demos as avi is a bit disturbing. Because as u said Oswald the demos were coded and swapped for free. Ok it would be nice they ask permission, but don't u think it would it's nice when u can get a nice archive on dvd which was prepared with care? As Optims said some people can't download such a tremendos archieve. |
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