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The Overkiller
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Active Sceners
Hi there,
I'm preparing a list of all active Sceners for the next issue of the mag Scene World. If you want to be in, just contact me via e-mail.
Regardz
The Overkiller / Hokuto Force
hokutoforce@telemail.it
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The Overkiller
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Quote: I used to compile such lists for the Driven magazine. All I know is that they give a false sense of scene-activity.
The real activity of the scene can be read by the products released, not by the number of people claiming to be working on something.
But hey, who am I to stop fooling yourself? :)
I partially agree 'cos I think it doesn't give a false sense to the scene. But I'm happy to know you had be fooled in the past for your work in Driven mag ;-) C'mon let's do our best for the Scene in harmony.
The Overkiller |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Well, there was a small difference: I wasn't working on an extensive list of active sceners ('coz that my friend is real nonsense), but I had an article about demo groups who were planning new productions. Ofcourse most of those were never released ..
And as for the 'Scene in harmony': fuck that, never has been that way and should never be that way :) |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
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Some people some ideal idea of the scene where everything is perfect, everyone is friendly and everyone agrees on everything. Too bad they don't notice the reality. |
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Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
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bla bla bla bla bla... some people take this scene a little to serious.. That's what I think!
Celtic! |
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Commander
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Quote: I partially agree 'cos I think it doesn't give a false sense to the scene. But I'm happy to know you had be fooled in the past for your work in Driven mag ;-) C'mon let's do our best for the Scene in harmony.
The Overkiller
You are right! Only a scene in harmony will survive. But the reality tells us that some people always like to be negative in our scene... But hey, The Overkiller, you're not alone, I also still believe in a scene in harmony (the only thing which keeps the scene alive, is friendship).
Good luck with Scene World!!
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The Overkiller
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Quote: You are right! Only a scene in harmony will survive. But the reality tells us that some people always like to be negative in our scene... But hey, The Overkiller, you're not alone, I also still believe in a scene in harmony (the only thing which keeps the scene alive, is friendship).
Good luck with Scene World!!
Hiya Commander,
I'm a bit depressed to read some reactions, seems that some ppl love only to hit other ppl, "probably" it had a sense back in the 80 or 90 with hundreads of sceners around .... but now ??? We're even less and less and instead to enjoy and take it just as a cool hobby we must create useless conflicts. Bha !!! I go on without hear their shouts :)
Celtic, I think most ppl don't take seriously the Scene in this way, at my eyes it's only a way to quarrel just like in politic.
Regardz
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
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Not everyone had to be friends with others, you have friends and the opposition. Much of the scenes were built upon competition. Competition motives are not important but these days when friendship is supposed to rule nothing seems to get done except nice letters and blablabla. Trying to do something better than someone else is healthy and more needed. |
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Puterman
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Commander and Overkiller, about this "scene in harmony" stuff: do you mean that if you say something negative about a release or something else, you're doing something wrong? If that's the case, I definitely don't want a scene in harmony. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
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i dont see why people expect to get a soft treatment just because the scene is smaller. we still have big egos and narrow minds, so why would things have changed?
but if you believe in your idea, go for it. we've seen formula one chapters in the past, so why not an active scener list. |
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T.M.R
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Quote: Commander and Overkiller, about this "scene in harmony" stuff: do you mean that if you say something negative about a release or something else, you're doing something wrong? If that's the case, I definitely don't want a scene in harmony.
The scene is far more in harmony now than it was during the 1980s and 90s; co-operation between crews is the norm now rather than a surprise (look at Crest and Oxyron working together or how many products GRG has done music for recently) and the "bitter" rivalries that were the source of a thousand ragging scrollers don't happen as much as they used to.
But there are still rivalries of a sort, as a vague example the "rasters and cycle timing" school of demo coding versus the "4x4 and maths" style, the "concept" demo versus the "Boris and splits" products or even emulation vs. no emulators; the scene is still made up of individuals who share a common interest in the C64 but not always an interest in the same facets.
As an example i like coding demos that feature rasterbars that are about as deep as the average puddle, Hollowman likes to use mono and have a message and that means there will be differences between us.
That doesn't mean there'll be a war between Cosine and Fairlight (well we could, it'd be an excuse for a couple of demos =-) just that there are differences and no matter how many manifestos are put out about "one scene in harmony" it'll probably never happen. The world as a whole can't get it right, we're just a macrocosm.
Please make the most of the above, that's as deep as i plan to get for the forseeable future. =-) |
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