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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
Event id #2985 : Filterless $21 Compo 2020
What is this? Count me in! |
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Eric Dobek
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2020
Posts: 18 |
Even if so, again, this event is filterless, so that is not allowed, thank you very much. |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1409 |
Aww, not testbit at all now? All my plans relied on briefly setting testbit at note start - much as the "must be part of HR routine and not wavetable" framing was unsettling me.
Still, probably no great loss as I've missed two music compo deadlines in the last three weeks already; chances of me hitting this one were less than even.
Also wait, I thought HR just meant "make sure you capture rc so the next note starts cleanly" - and all you really need for that is two frames of gate off, release of zero... |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Quoting ChristopherJammuch as the "must be part of HR routine and not wavetable"
Some trackers have manual hard-restarts only, so you basically need to call proper wavetable values, instead of choosing hard-coded routine.
Quoting ChristopherJammake sure you capture rc so the next note starts cleanly" - and all you really need for that is two frames of gate off, release of zero...
That's very much the point of excluding test-bit, however, it may become problematic if the tracker cannot customize its HR routine NOT to use test-bit during the time. |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1409 |
The test bit has nothing to do with the envelope, it only resets the oscillator phase. |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1791 |
Quoting ChristopherJamThe test bit has nothing to do with the envelope, it only resets the oscillator phase.
In common HR usage it does however blank out the oscillator output during the initial attack phase of the envelope, effectively truncating the start of the env curve. |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Quote: The test bit has nothing to do with the envelope, it only resets the oscillator phase.
Yes, obviously, but that wasn't the point. Again, if any tracker happens to use testbit in its restart routine because of the internal code, such tune cannot comply to the current rules right now. The same applies to zero waveform and from what I see, this was an issue for @spider-j. |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1409 |
Ah, of course(s)! Thanks tlr & F7sus4. |
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Joe
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229 |
With so much energy on a pedantic level of the rules I'd expect nothing less from the results at this compo, You guys are hilarious!
21 used to be the bus-line from school and home as expressway for me in my youth, so the number is kind of special.
I bet one could do just as much as one ever dreamed of, with just sawtooth waveforms; drums, leads, solos, arpeggios, chords.
Good luck guys, I'll be listening and vote as usual: "The gfx-guy who is a sucker for music". |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: Yes, obviously, but that wasn't the point. Again, if any tracker happens to use testbit in its restart routine because of the internal code, such tune cannot comply to the current rules right now. The same applies to zero waveform and from what I see, this was an issue for @spider-j.
They do comply. That use case is explicitly allowed:
"No testbit or zero waveform allowed ___outside___ routine's hardrestart phase" |
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Joe
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229 |
So? Seriously would that even make any difference? I hear lousy musicians cry in vain ;D |
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