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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
Repeal Anonymous Voting
Anonymous voting allows cowards to abuse the voting system. People downvote like sneaky little bastards. If you are voting for a person, group or release and you feel that your particular vote is how you honestly feel then there is no reason to conceal your vote. Repealing anonymous voting would weed out a large portion of the downvoters. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
Quote:An aggregation of votes over years and years is a funny thing, but completely different from the contemporary charts in disk magazines - where a reset button is pressed with each issue as new votesheets are gathered.
you have a quite important point there, which again shows how little anyone should care about the votes here =P |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074 |
Quote: yes, thats exactly what i ment. i'd add a little twist to it and for those who are not logged in show stats based on whatever setting the majority of users actually use - without telling which it is ofcourse =)
Or if we're really going to fix the voting system, simply hide the statistics and only show the (weighted) average - that's pretty much how every other site does it anyway. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
hide the statistics? and with it who voted what?
heretic ! /o\ |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: hide the statistics? and with it who voted what?
heretic ! /o\
Quite resonable I think. Instead of thinking "who the fuck downvoted me?" one would probably think "why the fuck did my release receive such low score, maybe I really do suck (yes you do, produce more and better to fix it)"
So, either remove the voting system completly (since it's flawed anyway because of too less voters), or remove the statistics. Making votes and statistics public will only create endless and useless debate instead of new productions imho. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
If you don't have the balls to back your votes, then don't fucking vote at all.
That's the way I've always felt about it.
Get rid of the anonymous voting, that's the way I've always felt about that too.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
Quote:So, either remove the voting system completly (since it's flawed anyway because of too less voters), or remove the statistics. Making votes and statistics public will only create endless and useless debate instead of new productions imho.
i totally agree =) however, try to convince those in this thread who want the anonymous voting removed completely (the entire opposite of what you propose).
what about additionally:
- users who set votes non public can also not see statistics (and who voted what)
- the "make votes public" setting can not be changed more than once a day (or maybe longer)
having an option sounds like a good alternative - those who insist on the drama can have it =)
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: If you don't have the balls to back your votes, then don't fucking vote at all.
That's the way I've always felt about it.
Get rid of the anonymous voting, that's the way I've always felt about that too.
It's not just about having balls, it's about having time and energy aswell. It takes close to zero effort to simply judge a release and vote for it. Explain the vote in depth however takes alot of energy.
More over, there are those people who are complely non-selfaware and would start to argue about downvoting and what not even when the production is totally useless and lame.
And again, I think having statistics hidden would perhaps actually encourage newbies to become better since they would only see a number and not a person => the only person they can blaim about the crappy average would be themselfs and the only reasonable thing to do to get a higher vote would be to create a better release instead of starting arguments with the so called downvoters.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Quote: If you don't have the balls to back your votes, then don't fucking vote at all.
That's the way I've always felt about it.
Get rid of the anonymous voting, that's the way I've always felt about that too.
Awesome.
It is about backing yourself.
If you can't do that, don't vote. Less votes, but honest and transparent.
edit: and as someone who has never had anonymous votes activated. I have never ever received any email or PM from anyone regarding my votes. I am a very active scener and have been on CSDb for a LONG time. |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Somewhat offtopic post follows as it's more of a suggestion than another opinion on anonymous voting....
I posted about this the last time voting was mentioned...
I still think the votes should be killed and change it to a user favourites (or Likes to use THAT term) list. A lot of stuff can be done with that eg the way Last.fm will give suggestions after correlating the data and checking who has a similar list to you it can then suggest things you may have missed, you can check friends lists or other things on lists where a prod appears (can be shown on the release page).
The system could take the current user votes and anything over a set amount (no reason to not allow the user to set the limit) converts into a "liked" prod.
People can show their appreciation, there's no downvoting because there's no votes because you can only "not like" it and judging by a quick look at the current charts the number of votes (to be converted to likes) correlates quite nicely to the position already.
All in all, atm there's no real discovery on this site (ie finding great stuff that u don't already know about or have been specifically linked to by someone). Someone suggested showing a couple of random uploads on each page refresh, like the games on Lemon but this could put people onto stuff they've never seen just because it's old or by a group you never heard of.
Yeah, it needs some code doing but not a lot for the basics (converting votes to likes and being able to view someone else's favourite/like list). The better stuff could come later.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
JCB: that is a good suggestion, a status rather than a figure. In that context I don't mind the anonymous part too only if the concept of downvoting, at large, is defeated. |
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