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2007-06-03 09:46
chatGPZ

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Making a Virus Scanner - info needed

as some of you might know i made a little util to scan the disks i transfered for errors (D64scan V0.2). now after reading latest discussions about various virii on the c64 i thought it would be a useful feature to add virus detection (and possibly elimination) to that tool aswell...

so the question is, who has detailed info on that subject? useful info would be
- what virii do exist
- how did said virii work
- what are existing scanners/cleaners, and how do they work
- how do those virii "initially" install (i only know about that bhp virus "installer")

...etc.

at the very least, i'd need a bunch of "infected" disks (or well, d64s of them), but ofcourse any further info would make things a lot easier :)

anyone?
 
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2007-06-07 16:03
chatGPZ

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i have made a little textfile containing what i found so far.... any further info and help welcomed. -> http://hitmen.c02.at/files/docs/c64/C64_Virus_List.txt

thanks to the ppl who helped so far (you know who you are)
2007-06-09 19:54
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Quote: i have made a little textfile containing what i found so far.... any further info and help welcomed. -> http://hitmen.c02.at/files/docs/c64/C64_Virus_List.txt

thanks to the ppl who helped so far (you know who you are)


As Roland now gave you the HIV2, you can be sure it is not
outhere, as i never spread it around.. :)
2007-06-09 19:57
chatGPZ

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Quote:
As Roland now gave you the HIV2, you can be sure it is not outhere, as i never spread it around.. :)


other people told me about this years before you know...

also since roland posted it in a public forum, it now certainly IS out there =P
2007-06-09 20:02
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Quote: Quote:
As Roland now gave you the HIV2, you can be sure it is not outhere, as i never spread it around.. :)


other people told me about this years before you know...

also since roland posted it in a public forum, it now certainly IS out there =P


"Sauhund" it is now out...

But be sure it was never before..
But understand me why i told you to ask the coder himself..
Now it's not so dangerous as you know how it works.

He never spread the file or did he ?
He only talked about after you were asking around or am i wrong ?
2007-06-09 20:07
chatGPZ

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whats so hard to understand in

Quote:

other people told me about this years before you know...


?

and if you read that thread roland posted the virus in, you can also see that roland isnt sure himself if he released it before.
2007-06-09 20:10
BAR.
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Quote: whats so hard to understand in

Quote:

other people told me about this years before you know...


?

and if you read that thread roland posted the virus in, you can also see that roland isnt sure himself if he released it before.



As told before Roland did not release it,
it was a "gift only to me", from a friend...
Could be that he forgot that.. ;)

Ok, we should now end here.
2007-06-09 20:18
chatGPZ

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Quote:

So you where sure that it was no fake ?


what? ppl telling me he made an improved version of HIV? why the hell would that be "fake" ?

Quote:

So i don't understand why you asked me in 2007 for it ?


i always used a c64/drive/cartridge combination which resets the drive together with the c64 (again, as you can read in that thread *sigh*) - and thus all those virii were pretty much a non issue to me. i've never spent a minute thinking about them until now, simply as that.
2007-06-09 20:26
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Quote: Quote:

So you where sure that it was no fake ?


what? ppl telling me he made an improved version of HIV? why the hell would that be "fake" ?

Quote:

So i don't understand why you asked me in 2007 for it ?


i always used a c64/drive/cartridge combination which resets the drive together with the c64 (again, as you can read in that thread *sigh*) - and thus all those virii were pretty much a non issue to me. i've never spent a minute thinking about them until now, simply as that.


A hint how to identify a HIV infected disk...

The directory will load slowly after the virus had infected a disk.. It is at first a file infected and then after that the virus linked directly to track18. If all is done, the files
all on disk and the track 18 is infected. That's the reason while it load slowly..
2007-06-09 22:09
chatGPZ

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thats not quite right. the directory will load slowly *if the virus is active*, ie if you run some infected program before and didnt reset the drive before loading the directory again. if you didnt run some infected program before, the directory will ofcourse load at normal speed and no harm will be done either.
2007-06-09 22:13
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Quote: thats not quite right. the directory will load slowly *if the virus is active*, ie if you run some infected program before and didnt reset the drive before loading the directory again. if you didnt run some infected program before, the directory will ofcourse load at normal speed and no harm will be done either.

A hint how to identify a HIV infected disk...

means the virus is active or am i wrong ?
Please read again.. ;)
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