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Spectator
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Floppy 2004 demos
I'm suprised not to find a thread about this yet.
Anyways, the WD demo definitely was my favourite, go WD! Especially the music. ;) |
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Spectator
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Actually i think the gap between PD and now was filled by the introduction of the Internet, which became popular around, say, 1997. I see a huge influence of the Internet, and the designs it shares and spreads, on the C64 (and any design related issue for that matter).
People are simply easily exposed, and more often, to electronic work of others.
So personally i think none deserves the credit, because, let's be honest, i sure as hell don't get my inspiration from c64 productions. Whereas back in the day, that would be the only thing you would get your inspiration from. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Did I say we owe it all to Panoramic? No.
Did I claim Hollowman was following "Panoramic's road"? No.
Do I think Panoramic should be mentioned when talking about this sort of thing? Hell yes.
Although I kinda took your post in the "PD is the source" way I wasn't referring to you specifically, but more to the scene in general, too many times I've seen people just pointing in one direction, that's why I reacted like this.
And as for mentioning Panoramic, there you go :) |
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Mermaid
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Hey, you're right, in the old days we didn't have cartoons, comics and other forms of art to inspire us. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Actually i think the gap between PD and now was filled by the introduction of the Internet, which became popular around, say, 1997. I see a huge influence of the Internet, and the designs it shares and spreads, on the C64 (and any design related issue for that matter).
People are simply easily exposed, and more often, to electronic work of others.
So personally i think none deserves the credit, because, let's be honest, i sure as hell don't get my inspiration from c64 productions. Whereas back in the day, that would be the only thing you would get your inspiration from.
Not entirely true: even in the 80's there were demos influenced by outside factors (Road of Excess, Red Storm) but I agree with you that nowadays there's more stuff to be influenced by.
But as for bringing a new style to the table, so to speak, the groups I mentioned above do deserve credit, because even between 1997 and 2000 nothing happened. Somebody had to start, and we/they did. But like I said, there's a lot of other things that still can be done, and it's kinda dissapointing to see so few groups branching in a different direction. If it's so easy to be influenced by other media, then why doesn't it happen? |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Hey, you're right, in the old days we didn't have cartoons, comics and other forms of art to inspire us.
I do so hope that was in reference to Spectator, otherwise I'm really confused now :) |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
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Quote: I do so hope that was in reference to Spectator, otherwise I'm really confused now :)
Of course it was. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Of course it was.
Doesn't matter, I'm still confused. Nothing that can't be solved with pills though. |
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Spectator
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Of course there have always been other sources. We know the creators of Dutch Breeze got quite a bit from TV.
All i'm saying there's much more (media) of it now. Then again there will always be people who stay stuck, i guess they don't care.
I still think you don't deserve the credit, you haven't been inspiring, merely converting (2 screens, and that's it). WD is another story, and Hollowman too has his own style (i think most of it sucks, but he does his own thing).
I have yet to wait for someone to really inspire me on the c64. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Of course there have always been other sources. We know the creators of Dutch Breeze got quite a bit from TV.
All i'm saying there's much more (media) of it now. Then again there will always be people who stay stuck, i guess they don't care.
I still think you don't deserve the credit, you haven't been inspiring, merely converting (2 screens, and that's it). WD is another story, and Hollowman too has his own style (i think most of it sucks, but he does his own thing).
I have yet to wait for someone to really inspire me on the c64.
The fact that we haven't been inspiring you doesn't mean we haven't been inspiring others. And i'm not talking about the 2 screens but we've had this discussion before, no use in starting it all over. So for your sake I just say: you are right. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
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Converting? |
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