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2009-11-18 06:54
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
Votesystem FAIL

OK, so why the vote system still exists, especially after all the devastating things it produces, is absolutely way beyond me.
It's rarely a representation of an objective, summarized opinion of the community. Either it's a playground for immature ding-dong fights I've had the luck to experience the last time in kindergarten, or it's simply a place for good old fashioned circlejerks.

I second Scout. At least I second the notion that this isn't really a place where I'd like to spend my spare time.

The constant pop-ups of topics considering the defecting vote-system is clearly a sign of something not working here the way it should. And yet, the cry ups keep getting ignored. For years.

Captain obvious is here to present you two options. One is to finally fix it, the other is to remove it for good. The latter one would be probably the best for all of us. And I think I'm speaking in the name of 99% of CSDb users here when I say that. Time to realize we are not IMDb with hundreds of millions of users, where a similar voting model works (more or less). Here, it's flawed and it simply fails on many, many levels

Pretty pretty please. Dudes who make and administer this site. Your work is fucking damn appreciated. I'd suck of all of you without a single second of consideration.

But for fucks sake.
 
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2009-11-18 19:37
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
This thread was doomed right from the begining.
2009-11-18 19:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293
Quote:

A beginner musician with minimal melodic skills, and 1986 sounds, bad hard restart and several wrong things, get voted 8 for a drum base tune.

Then here i come with 20 years of making tunes, and my tune has a melody that is remembered, long after you forgot the simplistic noisy sid you voted 8 for.

Anyone can hear that i spent 30 man hours doing my tune, and the other guy spent 4 hours, and yet..

And then you vote my work a 6 ?

IT hurts my feelings.


your fundamental problem is, that you mistake public voting for expert opinion. (that seems to be a general problem on teh internets ...). public voting is nothing but a statistic entity that reflects anything but what you expect. public voting means scooter==cool music and sid remixes==annoying beep blop stuff for nerds with no life. public voting chooses the straightforward disko stomper crowd pleaser tune in the compo over the much more complex and not quite ordinary laid back funkjazz tune in the compo.

please dont complain that when you ask for public voting, what you get isnt expert opinion you can agree on, but often completely uninformed bullshit.

2009-11-18 20:32
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
@Groepaz: Good point. Truth is in there.

Considering music (any kind), value vs recognition is usually painfully unbalanced so it's a hard problem and an unlimited source of frustration. If it was balanced, Rob Hubbard was a multi-billionaire, and "Hello Barbie Girl" could not pass through the door of a rehearsal room - unless it's in a brilliant Syntax 2009 winner tune :)
2009-11-18 21:54
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401
I just wasted god knows how much time reading through 45 posts and I have NO clue as to what the original subject/post was about, except that I seem to remember being in agreement with enthusi and oswald... at least there was some nice kittens, though.. CSDb never fails, hooray!

2009-11-18 23:28
V-12

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206
Personally I'm against voting system, because IMHO the database should be objective, just like a book where we can found important datas.
2009-11-19 00:15
GT
Account closed

Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 308
"Can it be there's been some sort of error?"
"Hard to stop the surmounting terror?"
"Is it really the end, not some crazy dream?"

Hallowed Be Thy Name - Iron Maiden

Now, sing it backwards.
2009-11-19 00:45
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 460
"Considering music (any kind), value vs recognition is usually painfully unbalanced so it's a hard problem and an unlimited source of frustration."

don't mistake your own musical taste for objective value. (the latter does not even exist in case of music, i suppose.)
2009-11-19 02:00
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
am i cured now ?
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